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Dru, thanks for the correction on steroids. Yes, AFAIK row 1 can get Shingles from someone with Chickenpox. But for row 3, there is no evidence of them breaking out with Shingles - with active ITP. On the charts and details, this post was hard to explain. The result is bit odd and is only superficially beneficial. Hopefully the next little study will be more useful.dru wrote: Hal, you are amazing with your charts and details.
I did not get shingles from steroids, I had not taken prednisone for more than a year when I got them. There was a case of chicken pox in a student in the daycare located near my classroom in the school where I worked. But I thought that you cannot get shingles from chicken pox? My blood counts were not affected by shingles luckily.
Melinda, thanks for your alias correction. I've got you in group 'Those who got Shingles'. There isn't any group who got Shingles from ITP. There is a group though that got ITP from Shingles - and they had either a row 3 or row 4 response. Sorry, it's confusing. On the stress aspect. Yes, I've been reading that both stress AND back injuries seem to often cause a Shingles breakout. They say that Chiropractors are well versed in recognizing a patient with Shingles and prescribing drugs for it. I can only speculate that the Shingles virus doesn't like to live in excited, or under stress, nerves.MelA wrote: Hal I did not get shingles because of ITP - my 1st case was well before ITP and was caused by stress due to a neighbor from HELL [this woman had to have horns hidden by her hair]!! 2nd case was because of ITP but not due to ITP - my count had hit the gutter because of a tetanus booster and I was so darn stressed out I'd have to go on prednisone again and look like the Pillsbury Dough Boy for our son's wedding [did refuse pred and had one WinRho IV]. Both my cases of shingles were due to stress. Also I am Melinda on your chart who had shingles & the tetanus booster relapse - I left this group for a while & when I decided to come back it wouldn't let me have Melinda so I'm now MelA. Sorry I have not read your chart/s - from what I'm seeing it may make my head spin trying to figure it out
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What I do not understand is why there wasn't a sharp increase in instances of people with these conditions in the trial. There is no way for the manufacturer to know who is and who is not predisposed to these conditions - then exclude from the trial those who are.Sandi wrote: ... "But the problem is that patients with immune-mediated inflammatory diseases such as rheumatoid arthritis, psoriatic arthritis, ankylosing spondylitis, and lupus were all excluded from those trials," she said...
My recollection is no, it was not compared to Zostavax.****I need to check and see if Zostavax was used in the control group as the 'placebo' which is often the case. Zostavax is known to cause shingles which would make that '210 people with shingles in clinical trial' a fraudulent number.
Ah, need to do my homework better. Looks like both C and B12 are very good at speeding recovery - besides leveraging Lysine for prevention. That 500 microgram recommendation is A LOT. Need to order some of that.Sandi wrote: This is a follow-up article to the Medpagetoday... Fortunately, there’s an easy way to steer clear of a shingles attack – no drugs required! Just follow the advice of HSI panel member Dr. Allan Spreen and take a daily dose of 500 mcg of vitamin B12, which is a powerful way to protect your nervous system.
And should you come down with shingles, taking a shot of B12 is the very best way to alleviate the symptoms and shorten the duration of an attack...
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Sandi wrote: I found this article last night. ...
" The efficacy and safety of the new zoster vaccine Shingrix has not been established among patients with autoimmune diseases, researchers reported here.
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The AVT is definitely working. I'm halfway through the course. If it doesn't improve my vertigo any more than it has, I'd actually be satisfied. But I have high hopes there's more improvement ahead.MelA wrote: Hope this will help your vestibular neuritis, that has got to be horrible! Would the Rituxan have caused that?
You wouldn't happen to be in St. Louis would you - I grew up there
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