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14 years 8 months ago #11788 by iam4ual
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I have asked several questions the past few days mainly because I am trying to understand this crazy thing that has happened to my body. I hope you guys will just be patient with me.

My question now is: has anyone had this long enough to be able to tell when their platelets are up. I was having bruising, blood blisters in my mouth, only one nosebleed that stopped really fast. Now I have been on Prednisone for 4 days and all of this is better, my old bruises even seem to be healing and I bit my mouth yesterday and it did not even so much as have a mark in my mouth I hit my arm and it did not bruise. I am praying that these are good signs, can anyone tell me if this is the way it is or am i just wishful thinking?
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14 years 8 months ago #11790 by Sandi
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Shannon:

I would say those are very good signs that your counts are up. I really never knew though until I had a CBC. I've had weird symptoms at higher counts and no symptoms at lower counts, so it's hard to tell sometimes.

One piece of advice we try to give new patients is to look at the symptoms and not the numbers. If symptoms are minimal, that's good regardless of the number. Try to convince your head that your counts are up so you can get through the weekend without going crazy. It's very possible that they are after 4 days of Prednisone.
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14 years 8 months ago #11791 by Rhiannon
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and in time you do get used to it says I who have been diagnosed with it since 1994 and had it about 8 times throughout. It is different for each of us and as I tell people, others with a cold feel more poorly than I do when my platelets drop.
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14 years 8 months ago #11792 by iam4ual
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Sandi,
Thank you for your reply. I have one more question. My Hem. chose not to do a BMB. WHy? He just did a lot of blood work and DX me with ITP and put me on PRednisone. I thought you had to have a BMB to know what was
going on. Am I wrong and all my other blood work was fine. Just my platelets were low.

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14 years 8 months ago #11794 by Rhiannon
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that is possible for I know my last drop, everything came back fine apart from the platelets which were 7. but that is a story in itself this time but just to reassure you it could only be the platelets that have decreased. But your doc will tell you for sure.....:)
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14 years 8 months ago #11797 by Sandi
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Shannon:

Actually, a bone marrow biopsy isn't necessary to diagnose ITP. It's recommended for those over 60 or prior to splenectomy. Other than that, it's just an invasive test that you don't need.
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14 years 8 months ago #11798 by Sandi
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Diagnostic tools for adults and children with suspected ITP were grouped into 3 sections of recommendation (supplemental Document Recommendation Box 1; Table 1). A presumptive diagnosis of ITP is made when the history, physical examination, complete blood count, and examination of the peripheral blood smear do not suggest other etiologies for the thrombocytopenia. There is no "gold standard" test that can reliably establish the diagnosis. Response to ITP-specific therapy, for example, intravenous immunoglobulin (IVIg) and intravenous anti-D, is supportive of the diagnosis, but a response does not exclude secondary ITP.

Thrombocytopenia can be caused by myriad conditions including systemic disease, infection, drugs, and primary hematologic disorders. In approximately 60% of pediatric cases, there is a history of a previous infection. An increased risk of ITP is also associated with measles-mumps-rubella vaccination. Bleeding after previous surgery, dentistry, and trauma should be considered when estimating the possible duration of chronic thrombocytopenia or an alternative bleeding disorder. If a diagnosis of ITP is established, contraindications to or cautions about corticosteroid therapy should be noted. Inherited thrombocytopenia should be considered in patients with long-standing thrombocytopenia unaffected by treatment and in those with a family history of thrombocytopenia or bleeding disorders.

Physical examination should be normal aside from bleeding manifestations. Mild splenomegaly may be found in younger patients, but moderate or massive splenomegaly suggests an alternative cause. Constitutional symptoms, such as fever or weight loss, hepatomegaly, or lymphadenopathy might indicate underlying disorder such as HIV, systemic lupus erythematosus (SLE), or a lymphoproliferative disease.

Peripheral blood count

ITP is characterized by isolated thrombocytopenia with an otherwise normal complete blood count. Anemia from blood loss may be present, but it should be proportional to the amount, and the duration, of bleeding and may result in iron deficiency (evidence level IV). If anemia is found, the reticulocyte count may help define whether it the result of poor production or increased destruction of red blood cells (RBCs).

Evaluation of peripheral blood smear

Evaluation of the peripheral blood smear by a qualified hematologist or pathologist is paramount to the diagnosis of ITP. This may demonstrate abnormalities that are not consistent with ITP, such as schistocytes in patients with thrombotic thrombocytopenic purpura–hemolytic uremic syndrome, or leukocyte inclusion bodies in MYH9-related disease. Excessive numbers of giant or small platelets may indicate an inherited thrombocytopenia (supplemental Document 9). Pseudo-thrombocytopenia due to ethylenediaminetetra acetic acid (EDTA)–dependent platelet agglutination should also be excluded (evidence level III).

Bone marrow examination

Bone marrow examination may be informative in patients older than 60 years of age, in those with systemic symptoms or abnormal signs, or in some cases in which splenectomy is considered. Both a bone marrow aspirate and a biopsy should be performed. In addition to the morphologic assessment, flow cytometry and cytogenetic testing should be considered (evidence level IIb-IV). Flow cytometry may be particularly helpful in identifying patients with ITP secondary to chronic lymphocytic leukemia (CLL).

bloodjournal.hematologylibrary.org/cgi/content/full/115/2/168
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Shannon, my boy was 11 when diagnosed and they did a BMB biopsy on him after two failed IVIG's only because we have a family history of MDS/Leukemia and we pushed hard for it. In our hospital it truly was not standard for them to do this. It was only the family history and the failed treatment that made them decide it was worth it in the end (and it gave us tremendous peace of mind).
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14 years 8 months ago #11810 by CindyL
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Shannon, I never had a BMB done either. I asked my doc about it and he said he didn't need to do one, so I never pushed for one. Didn't have one done before my splenectomy either. But, just like we are all different, so are doctors in their treatments.
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14 years 8 months ago #11820 by Rhiannon
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I did have a bone marrow done but I think things were different back in 1994 and certainly I think my local hospital did one as they may have had no idea where to start. All they knew is that I didn't have a heart valve infection after all... the reason given to me for calling me back.

They had to start somewhere and they could easily rule out leukemia/cancer by doing that test. After three days at the local I was transported to a more major hospital who simply repeated everything - even the photographs when I mentioned them:)

They do them to rule out anything else but if he is pretty certain it is straight forward platelets then he is certainly saving you some discomfort - though its okay with a good source of gas and air...:sick:
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14 years 8 months ago #11830 by server
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contraindications to or cautions about corticosteroid therapy should be noted.

whaaaaat??? sorry, don't understand that at all! I only ask because the NP suggested that I may want to ask my PCP about getting corticosteriod inhaler for my cough. Is that not a good idea? ugh.

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14 years 8 months ago #11832 by Sandi
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I think they are talking about: contraindications - ie, someone with diabetes, or cautions - ie, someone prone to depression, overweight, etc.

A steroid inhaler shouldn't affect anything. I have one. I think they are talking about putting someone on Prednisone in the first place; some people are not good candidates.
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14 years 8 months ago #11851 by Rhiannon
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all i know is I have one too for my asthma and overheard this conversation from the nurses on the ward and carefully continued walking past. I overheard them asking about taking steroids at the same time as inhaled steroids. Naturally I didn't hear the answer but if I was meant to have done so, then they would have come and told me to stop.... or something I guess....
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14 years 8 months ago #11863 by Sandi
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I have Prednisone, a steroid inhaler and a steroid nasal spray. I use them all.