Plantago major & Anamu

Hi

in the old forums they talked about these herbs

Did anyone try these herbs ???

if yes , what were the results

Hi!
I'm the person that originaly wrote about plantago major and Anamu,It does work, try it if you need too,there is nothing to loose and a lot to gain.It seems that when I started to write about this, a whole mess of products containing anamu and plantago are been sold in drugs stores and all over the net.I guess someone is watching and taking advantage and is not me.But I swear by it. Last time checked my platelets 303 K/UL Orlando.

interesting....

Hi Orlando, I've been trying to do some research into plantago major. In my local area (se qld. australia) I only seem to be able to find the lance-leaf plantain. A local herbalist says that we do have the broadleaf one but I haven't found it yet. I haven't found any sold here in health food shops and am confused with what I have read on the net. Some brands are selling climbing plantain. Could you give some more details on the plant or product you use.
Thanks, Sally

Hi Sally;
Sorry for taking so long to write but is that i'm been a little busy.
The plantago that I use is the broad leaf one,don't know if the others are equally as good.Have you found any good info on the herbs,I bet you have?Try to stay away from buying the stuff that is sold over the net,plantago and anamu is plentiful all over the world."Funny thing" I just got some Kangaroo hydes from Tasmania about 2 month ago.Later and good luck,Orlando;)

Thanks Orlando,
Do you mind sharing a few more details? Do you buy tablets or just source from your local area? How much do you take? What effects, if any, have you noticed that you feel sure are from these herbs? Any possible side-effects that you know of?
I haven't been able to get much info on anamu. Does it have another name?
Aren't I nosey?
Best wishes,
Sally

Hi Sally.
I haven't not used the herbs for a few years,My itp has not returned(thanks god)but I haved recomended it to other people around here and so far so good,a lot of the information that is found is usually in spanish which is my native tongue,but I have seen some good stuff that have been writen on the subject also in engkish is just a matter of looking.Try writing (research on anamu or plantago) and see what you can get.The plants grow wild all over my farm so I have no need to get it from other source,on the anamu I used the roots which are powerful,but should not be abused because it could be toxic if taken for over a month without rest in between.Boil a few pieces of roots together with leaves of plantago for around 5 to 10 minutes and drink 2 to 4 ounces 3 times daily,that usually works good for most people.As for other names, those are the names they known here for, but could be called something else in some other parts of the world.Hope I been of some help,regards,Orlando.

Thanks Orlando, I'll try googling again and see if I have more luck next time.
Very glad to hear you are doing so well
May your platelets stay high and sticky.
Best wishes and good health,
Sally

Ok, much better info this time round. Nature's Sunshine is selling Anamu powdered leaf (not root). I think they are a fairly reputable brand. Interestingly though anamu is supposed to interact with blood thinners so it will need to be taken cautiously.
I've found that several of the herbs used to boost immunity interact with blood thinners - some parallels with homeopathy perhaps. I'll wait till my counts are safe and stable before trialling anamu.
Orlando, is there a tradition of combining these 2 herbs and do you think the combination is important?
Thanks again, Sally

Hi Sally;
Hope you doing much better,as far as I know there is no thining of the blood with anamu,as a matter of fact when I started it, my platelets were 29 K/UL, about two months later 220K/UL after trying everything as far as coventional drugs,pred,Ivg,Vincristine,decadrone,etc.for over 7 month with no positive effect.The way I found out about this was;I was feeling very ill so I decided to go to this flea market for a little walk,but I was so weak, that had stop every few steps for a rest ,finally got to where this guy was selling small animals and notice he also had medicinal plants, I asked him if he knew of any plant that would raise platelets,right away he said,Anamu and plantago major.He went on to tell me that his mother was given 6 month to live(Lukemia)and was sent home to die,the hematologist did told the family that if they like and wanted to visit a naturalist, because usually they have a few things that could be used for pain and other stuff to make the last few month of her life much easier.The naturalist told them that if the doctor said it was nothing that could be done,he was not going to tell them no different,but said that if they wanted, could try Anamu and plantago, because it was known to be used to treat cancer in places like Cuba.They started the lady on the herbs and 6 month came and went and she was getting better,She was taken to the hospital to run some test and the disease had gone into remmision.15 years later the lady was still alive.This is New!!!This friend of mine, when he was in college 30 years ago were running trials on posible cures for cancer by injecting cancer sells into mice and waiting until it would take hold and the treating them with anamu,within months the cancer was all gone,he swear this a cure for cancer but don't understand why is not more widely used..Good luck,Orlando.

sally wrote: Ok, much better info this time round. Nature's Sunshine is selling Anamu powdered leaf (not root). I think they are a fairly reputable brand. Interestingly though anamu is supposed to interact with blood thinners so it will need to be taken cautiously.
I've found that several of the herbs used to boost immunity interact with blood thinners - some parallels with homeopathy perhaps. I'll wait till my counts are safe and stable before trialling anamu.
Orlando, is there a tradition of combining these 2 herbs and do you think the combination is important?
Thanks again, Sally

Most often there is a difference between using the root and leaf of something. It's possible the root is not an issue with thinning the blood, but the leaf is. NS is a reputable company (I do like their stuff). However, supplement companies use what is easier to obtain and cheaper and I have serious doubts the leaf and root function the same in this case. Would do some further research between the two.

patti

Great story Orlando, thank you very much for telling it.
I guess with lots of treatments around they effect us all differently and it seems to take time and persistence from people who are willing to trial different herbs before they become accepted by the majority - and then many still won't accept the idea that they could help until they see the double blind studies. However, with autoimmune diseases on the increase and more people not responding to the limited and often ineffective medical teatments I am sure there is going to be a revival in many of the old remedies. In fact it is already happening and the internet is such a great source of info for this area.
I think with Itp however, those pesky platelets are so sensitive and the fear of sudden dives understandably prevents people wanting to take risks. So far, touch wood, I have not experienced very low counts, not been treated (medically) and have no intention of just watching and waiting until I get sick enough so that the doctors can treat.:S
It is pretty hard to understand about foods, herbs and supplements that thin the blood and/or interact with blood thinners(ie.aspirin, warfarin etc.)- I suspect that is the same thing. However, they don't necessarily lower platelet numbers but rather make them less sticky. The foods on the Warning list are more concerned about platelet numbers.It's all quite complicated and I'm sure there is a lot of overlap and individual variations. Also, many of the items on the list have such other vital health benefits that I don't intend to stop eating them. I just take them very cautiously.
I am learning as much as I can about the different herbs and then trialling only one or two at a time. Keeping it simple and watching closely for their effects. I have been taking the chinese herbs Codonopsis (spleen tonic) and Astragalus (immune tonic) for the last 3-4 months. Both platelets and WBC's have gone up (from 60 to 90) but I can feel the codonopsis is possibly effecting my blood sugar levels and I am ready to give something else a try. If I could get plantain and anamu easily I would certainly trial them, and I will continue to try and source some for the future. At the moment I have a couple of other herbs on the ready.
Cheers, Sally

Hi sally;
I don't know if this would work but try finding a source in Spain,Spanish people work a lot with herbs and also the the Asian and since you are in the old world it may be easier to find them there.But if you have a friend or a relative in the states let me know I may be able to sent you some at no charge,I think it would cost a few dollars to sent a pound regular airmail.I do sent to my family in California ,New York and Florida things that they can not find there, from P.R.Good luck,regards,Orlando. p/s. plantago in spanish is called(llanten) Sounded yan-ten,Anamu stays the same..

Thanks Orlando,
I have some contacts here I'll try talking to first. They deal a lot with permaculture and sourcing useful plants from over the world. They maybe able to help. It sounds like it would be good to grow my own.
Will let you know how I progress.
Sally