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Anyone take Benadryl to offset side effects

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13 years 11 months ago - 13 years 11 months ago #22306 by mothergoo
Was wondering if any one takes 2 benadryl before bed to help offset the insomnia caused by prednisone?? A nurse at the ER told me it was ok to take since I was having such bad side effects to the meds. Was wondering if it has any affect on your platelet counts?? and also is antacids like Tums ok to help with the heart burn and acid reflux its causing??

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13 years 11 months ago - 13 years 11 months ago #22307 by Ann
I was prescribed omeprazole for the stomach problems. I didn't find that anything I could buy over the counter was good enough but if it works for you then that's fine. I also like to get things prescribed if at all possible because then they are free :)
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13 years 11 months ago #22308 by Mark
A couple years ago and for a number of years I did exactly that - 2 benadryls as a sleep aid. (After a while I felt I was dependent on them to sleep.)

Then one day I googled "benadryl side effects platelets".... try it and you will see that a low platelet count is a benadryl side effect. I am fairly sure it is an unlikely or infrequent side effect. For example, many of our hem drs will give a benadryl drip or injection first before starting IVIG or rituxan (Rituximab).

Nevertheless, after this google search I stopped using benadryl as a sleep aid. It seemed to have no effect on my numbers either way. Lately I've been struggling with my own sleep problems and have taken one benadryl here and there to help (again no effect on my numbers).


Other sleep aids you might consider are: ambien (of course, you'll need a prescription)
tryptophan (amino acid in milk and turkey; over the counter supplement)
melatonin (also over the counter)

I wish you a good night's sleep!

Mark
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13 years 11 months ago #22331 by april
I would not recommend taking Benadryl to counteract the side effects of the Prednisone, for, as Mark pointed out, lowered platelets is one of the side effects of Benadryl, so it may very well prove counterproductive. I actually know of quite a few ITP patients who found that stopping the Benadryl was necessary before their counts could come up.(And, also found that the Benadryl often has to be antidoted from the body, first, especially if consumption was high or frequent.) Remember, someone who already has ITP will be at a much higher risk to being sensitive to these effects, whereas someone with a normally functioning immune system may not have a problem.

How long have you been on the Prednisone, and at what dosage? You may ask your doctor if you can begin lowering it gradually. It is important to taper gradually. The no sleeping side effect won't really go away until you come off of it. Do a lot of reading on here, and you will find other treatments, and also see that not everyone even finds it necessary to treat unless their counts get very low or they are having frank bleeding symptoms. I don't know what your counts have been, your symptoms or your response to Prednisone, so it's difficult to comment further.

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  • I developed hemolytic anemia in 1999 and ITP in 2005. Treatments have been splenectomy, prednisone, IVIG, and Rituxan.
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13 years 11 months ago #22337 by dru
I have used benadryl to help with sleep and it never affected my platelets one way or the other. My hema always prescribes ranitidine along with the prednisone to help with any reflux issues.

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13 years 11 months ago #22338 by mothergoo
Thanks April... I was just diagnosed about a week ago. On Feb 8th my count was 70,000
( also had the unexplained bruising and the red pin dots on my legs then) then on friday ii dropped to 25,000.. thats when they said I had ITP and gave me 140mg of prednisone. On Monday my count went up to 134,000.. Wednesday I took 120mg because I couldnt handle the side effects and decided to taper down.. (dizzy, anxiety, heart racing, now have high blood pressure, confused, cant think straight, insomnia, forget things,horrible headache that want go away, dont want to leave my house, havent been to work in almost 2 weeks) Then seen the hemotologist on Thursday for the first time.. count dropped to 100,000.. he dropped me to 100mg... and thats what Im on now.. Go tomorrow for a count.. very nervous because I also started bleeding( which I hope is my period on Saturday.) its very heavy.. and that scares me. Does a period effect the count do u know???

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13 years 11 months ago #22340 by april
No wonder you're having such bad side effects--that's a high dose of Pred! I guess there are different thoughts on it, but many doctors would start you off at least half of what you did. I just think they have no idea what it's like to be on such high doses. It does seem extreme to me, especially as 25k, the lowest you reported, is still relatively safe. Unless you're having frank bleeding symptoms that can't be stopped, most doctors won't order treatment until you're at 20k, some even not until 10k or below. Simple bruising and petechiae (those little red dots), while not so pretty to look at, are not in of themselves, dangerous. You need to make it very clear to your doctor how badly this is affecting you. Remember, he works for you. Read a lot on here, and become your own advocate. If he seems too aggressive, you may want to get a second opinion.

As regards to the menstrual bleeding, it varies quite a bit. For some, it can be problematic, and the flow will be quite heavy. For others, it doesn't seem to make a difference. I know for my daughter who had ITP (she was 12 at diagnosis), even though she was nearly always between 3k and 10k, her periods never got heavier. However, it did seem her platelets would be at their lowest during her cycle--not dramatically lower, but lower.

Be aware, too, that one of the side effects of Prednisone is: "Hematologic side effects have included thrombocytopenia, lymphopenia, and platelet alterations resulting in thrombolic events" and "menstrual irregularities", and so can actually increase the risk of bleeding. One of the moms who used to post a lot on here, her young son was at 3k, but he wasn't having any overt bleeding symptoms. After being put on Pred for 4 days, he began bleeding like "a stuck pig, from every orifice", and his counts went down to zero, and stayed there for 3 months. Needless to say, though the doctor simply wanted to give him even more Pred, they refused any more, and instead sought out some more natural treatments.

One thing that might give you some relief from the side effects, I have posted in the Natural Treatments section at:
www.pdsa.org/forum/8-natural-treatment-methods/12854-how-to-attenuate-side-effects-to-medications.html

It may sound a little strange at first, but give it a try. It will cost you nothing but a little water and your time, is completely safe snd easy to do. I used it twice last week, and both times it worked within minutes. One was a very pregnant woman who wanted to get things going. After looking on the internet, she went to an herb shop and bought some Black Kohosh. After taking it, she began feeling very anxious and ill, and very nauseated, though labor still had not begun after 5 days. Even so, she continued to feel ill.She was referred to me. The first thing I did was make up a "remedy" from a tiny pinch of the Black Kohosh, and give it to her. Both she and her husband were amazed how within 2 minutes of taking 1 teaspoon, all of those ill effects were gone!

A couple of days later I got a late night call from a young man who knew I was a homeopath. He grew up in Germany, and was raised on homeopathy, and had called me for some advice. At a party, one of his friends had taken some drugs to which he was reacting to, was in a totally psychotic state, very paranoid, very violent. I talked him through this same method, and within minutes, I could hear that the boy completely calmed down, and returned to normal.(He had been screaming and throwing things around!) The hardest part was getting him to take the remedy.

Anyway, just use the same method for the Prednisone. Since you're taking it everyday, you'll need to take a dose of the diluted Prednisone each day, also. Usually 15 to 60 minutes after your regular dose. Just keep the cup of water and cover it. Then, each day, dump it out and refill it a few times before taking a dose. Do not add anymore Prednisone pills, just use it like sourdough starter.

Let me know if you try it and how it works for you,
April

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13 years 11 months ago #22341 by mothergoo
Thanks April... I definitely will be trying it... at this point Ill try anything..Ill let u know how it goes..

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