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PaPaya LEAF EXTRACT as a Treatment for ITP!

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14 years 3 weeks ago #24637 by robfoss
The caps are Papaya leaf extract caps.Make sure they are 100%.Rob
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14 years 3 weeks ago #24666 by Dimples
Thank you all for posting encouraging words on this blog. I have been taking the liquid and capsules. Another option to getting the extract is from herbal papaya company on their website herbalpapaya.com or on Amazon. When I order I usually receive it within 3 to 4 days of ordering and they are organic without any alcohol content which is important for me. Blessings

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14 years 3 weeks ago #24705 by frankie34
HI ROB JUST RECIEVED MY PAPAYA LEAF EXTRACT, 5/19. STARTED TAKING THE LIGUID EXTRACT, 2 TBLS,ON 5/20,TIME 720AM .MY COUNT WAS 43K ON 5/16, AFTER THE IVIG, THEY WENT DOWN 2K AFTER TREATMENT. AGAIN THANK YOU, AND ALL THE CONTRIBUTORS TO THIS WEBSITE. FRANKIE

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14 years 2 weeks ago #24731 by frankie34
HI DIMPLES. YOU MENTIONED YOU ARE TAKING THE EXTRACT PILLS, AND THE TEA .DID YOU GET RESULTS BACK .I JUST STARTED USING THE LIQUID EXTRACT,5/20/12, BUT I WOULD CONSIDER THE PILLS AND TEA. LET US KNOW HOW THEY ARE WORKING. IF YOU CAN POST SOME TEST RESULTS. THANK YOU, AND GOD BLESS . FRANKIE34

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14 years 2 weeks ago #24732 by Dimples
Frankie, I have been using the capsules and tea together since August of last year - 2 caps a day plus 2 to 3 cups of tea. Really wanted to try the liquid but decided to stay with what is working for me right now, plus I love drinking herbal teas and not quite sure what the liquid tastes like. My count was at 17K before the papaya extract experiment. 3 Months later using just papaya leaf extract, my count was 90K. Recent test on 4/23/12 count has stabilized at 147K. I order from the herbalpapaya.com company as it seems to have strong credentials/GMO-free/alcohol free lab tested etc etc, and I've been happy with my results. I think whatever works for you is best so keep us updated.:)
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14 years 2 weeks ago - 14 years 2 weeks ago #24734 by Ann
A quick google search brings up the following.

www.my-diary.org/read/d/572752

"I recently launched an online business selling my line of herbal papaya leaf and fruit products." signed by Dimples.

I thought so.

Edit: She's now closed the diary off so it's not available to view any more... except for the copy I saved.
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14 years 2 weeks ago #24756 by Getteca
Hello,
I was diagnosed with ITP last tuesday! I am currently 39 weeks pregnant. First pregnancy!
In october 2011 My platelets count was 169k. I was 1.5 months pregnant. Before pregnancy in july 2011 my blood count was 30k then 10 days later it went up to an accepted level ( i dont remember as i had no idea this was serious back then and thought nothing of it).
Last tuesday my plateleta count was 7k so i was admitted into hospital for ivg ( octagam) levels webt up to 25 then 28 in two days but by monday level webt back down to 16k.
So i gave up and started prednisone this morning because i am due any time in the next week or so and dont want to hemorrhage!
Very stressful week!
After reading this blog i ordered the papaya leaf extract and capsules will receive them tomorrow.
Is it ok to use while on prednisone?
I already can say i dont like how i feel on prednisone...60mg till delivery.
Please send me prayers and any advise you can give me :)
Thank you.

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14 years 2 weeks ago - 14 years 2 weeks ago #24760 by Lady Elly
KittieG:

Did you get you platelet count yet? I am looking forward to your results from the papaya leaf pills.

Hopefully they will work for you. Let us know as soon as possible.

Thanks.

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14 years 2 weeks ago #24767 by frankie34
Hi dimples. thank you for your information.The liquid extract, tastes lousy to me, others have voiced the same opinion. I think I am going to shift to the capsules and tea, after i finish with the liquid.Again thank you for your information. Keep us informed of your progress.I personally think based on the websites contributors, this is the way to go.I am on a quest to increase my platelets to normal. I haven't yet because I just started the liquid, but I sincerely believe I will beat this.Again thank you and god bless

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14 years 2 weeks ago #24769 by frankie34
HI . I just did some research. i tablespoon equals 14.78 cc's, 1 tablespoon equals .5 fluid ounces.Hope this helps. take care. and god bless

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14 years 2 weeks ago #24780 by Ann

frankie34 wrote: Hi dimples. thank you for your information.The liquid extract, tastes lousy to me, others have voiced the same opinion. I think I am going to shift to the capsules and tea, after i finish with the liquid.Again thank you for your information. Keep us informed of your progress.I personally think based on the websites contributors, this is the way to go.I am on a quest to increase my platelets to normal. I haven't yet because I just started the liquid, but I sincerely believe I will beat this.Again thank you and god bless

Frankie, Dimples doesn't have ITP, she owns the online shop that sells the papaya extract and is just trying to get sales.
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14 years 2 weeks ago #24790 by jojosteen
How much do you take of this extract?

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14 years 2 weeks ago #24791 by jojosteen
How much do you use on a daily bases?

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14 years 2 weeks ago #24805 by frankie34
HI ANN THANK YOU FOR THE INFORMATION. HOW ARE YOUD DOING WITH YOUR ITP. TAKE CARE AND GOD BLESS

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14 years 2 weeks ago #24806 by frankie34
HI JOJOSTEEN . I TAKE TWO TABLESPOONS OF THE EXTRACT AT THE SUGGESTION OF ROB, WHO HAS BEEN USING IT FOR A WHILE WITH GOOD NUMBERS..................TAKE CARE AND GOD BLESS

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14 years 2 weeks ago #24807 by frankie34
i AM BASICALLY NEW TO THIS WEBSITE, SO FORGIVE ME, IF i MAKE ERRORS. BASICALLY TAKING 1 OUNCE, 2 TABLESPOONS = 1 OUNCE OF THE EXTRACT , THEORETICALLY I CAN GO THRU A 4 OUNCE BOTTLE WITHIN 4 DAYS. IT IS EXPENSIVE THIS WAY. I AM MODIFYING MY DOSAGE TO 1AND HALF TABLE SPOONS. I HAVE ORDERED THE TEA , 30 TEA BAGS, AND WILL TAKE THEM ALONG WITH THE EXTRACT. I AM EXPERIMENTING NOW. TAKE CARE AND GOD BLESS
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14 years 2 weeks ago #24893 by KittieG
Lady Elly: I still haven't gone : P ! I wish I were better about such things, but the switch from one dr to another has made it a little more time consuming.

I have, however, continued with the three papaya every day.

You guys are keeping me on my toes - I will make an appt this week!!!

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14 years 1 week ago - 14 years 1 week ago #24934 by frankie34
HI WEBSITE, I AM GOING FOR MY BLOOD TEST TODAY, TUESDAY 5/29/12 , WISH ME LUCK , I WONT GET THE RESULTS BACK FOR A FEW DAYS. I WILL KEEP YOU ALL ADVISED.......THANK YOU ALL, AND GOD BLESS FRANKIE.HI WEBSITE I RECIEVE MY COUNT, I AM DIAPPOINTED, THEY ONLY WENT UP FROM 42K TO 44K. I ONLY BEEN TAKING THE PAPAYA EXTRACT FOR 11 DAYS. I WAS OFF MY SUPPLEMENTS OF D3, B12 , MULTI, FISH OIL AND CHLORELLA, I AM GOING TO START TAKING THEM, AGAIN. ADDITIONAL BLOOD WORK REVEALED LOW COPPER, IN THE BLOOD, WHICH COULD CAUSE, THE PROBLEM , I AM NOW TAKING COPPER SUPPLEMENTS, I WAS GIVEN A BONE MARROW TEST TODAY MAY 30 , WILL NOT KNOW THE RESULTS UNTIL JUNE 12. WELL WEBSITE JUST REMEMBER ME IN YOUR PRAYERS TO THE DIVINE PHYSICIAN. THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR KNOWLEDGE AND CONCERN, AGAIN TAKE CARE AND GOD BLESS YOU ALL.FRANKIE

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14 years 1 week ago #24939 by Melinda
Frankie I hope your count is super!

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14 years 1 week ago #25037 by debrasla
I just ordered it and the pills for my son. How much should he take each day?

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14 years 5 days ago - 14 years 5 days ago #25089 by Lady Elly
Kitte G:

Just wondering what platelet count is since you started taking 3 papaya pills a day and would plan to have platelets checked on May 10th. That is a month ago and haven't heard results.

Keep us informed. Thank you.

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14 years 5 days ago #25091 by KittieG
Still haven't gone..... But I'm still take three a day.

I will keep taking them until I go - just been busy!

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14 years 2 days ago #25214 by Rose
Hi Frankie, Despite what appears to be a ruse by Dimples, have you had good luck with PaPaya extract to keep your platelets at an acceptable level? I am newly diagnosed ITP for just over 2 months and have not had a good run keeping mine up. Thanks so much, Rose

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14 years 2 days ago #25215 by Rose
Hi Ann, thanks for the information about Dimples. I am wondering if you are having luck with Papaya in helping you to keep your platelets at an acceptable level? I am considering taking it and would love to hear from 'real' people about their experiences. I was diagnosed in late March of this year and am having a heck of a time keeping my platelets up. Thank you so much, Rose

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14 years 2 days ago #25216 by farida
i never wait so long to take my son's results i always got it by phone,

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13 years 11 months ago #25285 by frankie34
hi rose it is 6/12/12 I HAVE TAKEN THE EXTRACT NOW FOR 24 DAYS,SINC 5/20/ I AM SCHEDULED TODAY 6/12 FOR BLOOD WORK , I WILL LET YOOU KNOW HOW I MAKE OUT. TAKE CARE AND GOD BLESS
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13 years 11 months ago #25286 by frankie34
HI ROSE . I AM SCHEDULED FOR A BLOOD TEST TODAY 6/12 . I STARTED TAKING TWO TABLESPOONS BECAUSE ROB HAD SUCCESS WITH THE DOSAGE. I STARTED THE EXTRACT 5/20/12 IT HAS ONLY BEEN 24 DAYS COUNTING TODAY. I WILL CONTACT YOU WITH MY RESULTS. YOU TAKE CARE AND GOD BLESS. FRANKIE
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13 years 11 months ago #25290 by frankie34
hi Rose. I RECIEVED GOOD NEWS TODAY MY PLATELETS WENT UP 10000 IN A 24 DAY PERIOD THEY ARE AT 53000 i am using the papaya extract 2 tablespoons, and the papaya tea bag 1 tea bag daily along with copper tablets because i have low copper. Between you and I I think it is the papaya . Keep me informed how you are making out. If you need more info just send me a message.take care and god bless. frankie
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13 years 11 months ago #25405 by KittieG
Alright - I finally got my CBC done! And the results were: between 50k and 60k - which is a great jump and amazing numbers for me. I was totally excited......

But wait a minute, there's more.

The new place I'm getting my CBC is a lab where they send me results and also send them to my doctor in Baltimore. So as I read further through the new report (which looks different than others and I had to figure out what info was where), the results for platelets said "50-60 thousand, inconclusive. Patient has significant clumping of platelets which may affect numbers".

Wait, what? Clumping of platelets? I've never read that before.

So I went online, and the first (and second, and third) thing I pulled up were pages from medical journals talking about this acid that lines some of the tubes they collect blood in, called EDTA. For approximately 1 in 3000 people, this EDTA can cause platelets to clump onto it, Which means that when they pull the blood for the slide, there are far less platelets showing, because they are all stuck on the EDTA in the tube. And this can sometimes lead to a diagnosis of "EDTA-induced pseudo-thrombocytopenia".

EDTA-induced pseudo-thrombocytopenia. Meaning the patient (in this case me) may NOT EVEN HAVE ITP.

Obviously, my next call was to my new doctor at Johns Hopkins.

Thankfully, he had already read the results and thought the same thing - that it is actually possible that I may not have ITP at all, and that it may actually be an error because of the EDTA.

My doctor asked that my next step (after a 10 day work trip) is to get re-tested, with two tubes - one lined with the EDTA, one without. Apparently there are differences in the tubes depending on the color of the cap ( I will make sure to find out this detail before I go back). And if each of the results are dramatically different numbers from the same pull, then we may have our answer - that I never had ITP in the first place.

This is all just speculation right now, but as you can imagine, this whole turn of events has me pretty emotionally exhausted. I mean, yes, this would be good news - great, really. But my god, I have a lot of other thoughts going on in my head.

1. I'm angry that this was never brought up or looked at until now.

2. I'm thankful that I was so adamant about not having a splenectomy, but

3. My god I took a lot of unnecessary drugs last year, including rituxan and winrho, not to mention three hostpitalizations for Ivig. That makes me sad and angry. My body is still recovering from the steroids, and I'm still losing hair.

4. I'm proud of myself for becoming my own advocate over the last 18 months, and becoming able to tell a doctor "no". Especially if it ends up I didn't have anding wrong with me.

5. I keep inking about the money spent last year on my health, not to mention the time lost from work and emotional costs.

But the biggest thing ging through my head is this:

If only one in 30,000 people have ITP, but 1 in 3000 have this reaction to the EDTA, why isn't it a standard protocol to rule out EDTA sensitivity before giving a diagnosis of ITP?

Because of this huge question I pose, I will be re-posting this as a new subject as well, because I want to see if anyone else has ever heard of this EDTA reaction.

So - for now, I go to work for 10 days. Then on the 29th, the new test. I will keep you all posted, and I'll check in during my trip.

Thanks to all of you who've been following my journey - its awesome having you all out there, and it makes the whole process so much easier knowing I've got a group of folks who listen.
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13 years 11 months ago #25453 by lili
Boy, I sure hope that you didn't have all that treatment for nothing. That would make me really angry. Did you have any other symptoms of ITP? In my case I've been low enough and had the bruising, petichiae etc that make me quite confident that ITP is an issue, but lots of people don't have those symptoms. This is definitely something we should be aware of. Thanks for pointing it out and keep us updated.

Lily

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