Search Results (Searched for: autism)

  • MelA
12 May 2019 15:40 - 14 May 2019 14:02
And all this because dear doctor Wakefield lied about autism and MMR vaccine.
He lied - we suffer. Unreal!

Sorry it is hitting your area too. Take care now!!
  • Hal9000
15 Mar 2019 20:17 - 15 Mar 2019 20:17
Replied by Hal9000 on topic Maternal ITP and Autism
karinst, not knowing anything about this subject, I did a search of the word 'autism' on this message board. Here are the results.
pdsa.org/discussion-group/search.html?query=autism&searchdate=all&order=inc&childforums=1

I scanned through it. These members seemed to have comments somewhat related to your question.
'mumofwill'
'Terra'
'pegstirling'
'MuiseFamily6'

Hope this helps.
  • karinst
15 Mar 2019 14:05
Maternal ITP and Autism was created by karinst
I have had ITP since I was a child, went into remission then it came back with a vengeance in 2016 at 31. I had a splenectomy with full recovery and got pregnant 6 months later. Unfortunately I had transplacental antibodies to my daughter born with 7K platelets which cleared by 3months once her body cleared my blood supply. At 2.5 she was diagnosed with autism (ASD). In the medical literature maternal autoimmune disease is associated with ASD. Wondering if there are any other ITP moms that have a child (children) with autism?
  • Sandi
21 Jan 2019 22:18
Replied by Sandi on topic flu related death/s
Hal:

This is just one study that I have regarding aluminum adjuvants and the brain:

"Al salts (hydroxide and phosphate) are the most commonly used vaccine adjuvants and, until recently, the only adjuvants licensed for use in the USA. In the absence of Al, according to their manufacturers, antigenic components of most vaccines (with the exception of live attenuated vaccines) fail to elicit the desired level of immune response. Although Al is neurotoxic, it is claimed by proponents that the concentrations at which Al is used in the vaccines do not represent a health hazard. For that reason, vaccine trials often treat an Al adjuvant-containing injection as a harmless “placebo” (a comparison benchmark or control treatment) or they use another Al-containing vaccine to treat a “control group,” despite evidence that Al in vaccine-relevant exposures is universally toxic to humans and animals. Its use in a supposed “placebo” or in any “control” treatment in vaccine trials is indefensible. It is precisely analogous to comparing fire A against fire B, to make the argument that since A is no hotter than B, A is therefore not a fire.

During the last decade, studies on animal models and humans have shown that Al adjuvants by themselves cause autoimmune and inflammatory conditions. The animal models show that subcutaneous injections of Al hydroxide induced apoptotic neuronal death and decreased motor function in mice and sheep. In newborn mice they were associated with weight increases, behavioral changes, and increased anxiety. All these findings plausibly implicate Al adjuvants in pediatric vaccines as causal factors contributing to increased rates of autism spectrum disorders in countries where multiple doses are almost universally administered. Also, as shown by Goldman and Miller in studies published in 2011 and 2012, strong correlations between infant mortality rates and the number of doses of vaccines administered also suggest deleterious impact of multiple exposures to their components.
The latest research by Luján et al. described a severe neurodegenerative syndrome in commercial sheep linked to the repetitive inoculation of Al-containing vaccines. In particular, the “sheep adjuvant syndrome” mimics in many aspects human neurological diseases linked to Al adjuvants. Moreover, the outcomes in sheep were first identified following a mass-vaccination campaign against blue tongue and have now been successfully reproduced under experimental conditions following administration of Al-containing vaccines. Notably, the adverse chronic phase of this syndrome affects 50–70% of the treated flocks and up to 100% of the animals within a given flock. The disorder is made worse by cold weather conditions, suggesting synergy with other stress producing factors. The disorder is characterized by severe neurobehavioral outcomes—restlessness, compulsive wool biting, generalized weakness, muscle tremors, loss of response to stimuli, ataxia, tetraplegia, stupor, inflammatory lesions in the brain and the presence of Al in the CNS tissues, coma, and death. These findings confirm and extend those of Khan et al. who demonstrated the ability of Al adjuvants to cross the BBB, and they show that Al in the brain can trigger severe long-term neurological damage. The findings by Luján et al. and Khan et al. also show how and why reported adverse reactions following vaccinations are most commonly neurological and neuropsychiatric."
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4202242/
  • Sandi
27 Nov 2018 18:24
Replied by Sandi on topic Flu season
I moved it out of Maria's thread because I didn't want her posts to be consumed with this.

Counter argument:
"Al salts (hydroxide and phosphate) are the most commonly used vaccine adjuvants and, until recently, the only adjuvants licensed for use in the USA [79–89]. In the absence of Al, according to their manufacturers, antigenic components of most vaccines (with the exception of live attenuated vaccines) fail to elicit the desired level of immune response [66, 80]. Although Al is neurotoxic, it is claimed by proponents that the concentrations at which Al is used in the vaccines do not represent a health hazard [19]. For that reason, vaccine trials often treat an Al adjuvant-containing injection as a harmless “placebo” (a comparison benchmark or control treatment) or they use another Al-containing vaccine to treat a “control group,” despite evidence that Al in vaccine-relevant exposures is universally toxic to humans and animals [9, 90, 91]. Its use in a supposed “placebo” or in any “control” treatment in vaccine trials is indefensible [95]. It is precisely analogous to comparing fire A against fire B, to make the argument that since A is no hotter than B, A is therefore not a fire.

During the last decade, studies on animal models and humans have shown that Al adjuvants by themselves cause autoimmune and inflammatory conditions [19, 79–81, 90, 95–103]. The animal models show that subcutaneous injections of Al hydroxide induced apoptotic neuronal death and decreased motor function in mice [2, 37–39] and sheep [43]. In newborn mice they were associated with weight increases, behavioral changes, and increased anxiety [2]. All these findings plausibly implicate Al adjuvants in pediatric vaccines as causal factors contributing to increased rates of autism spectrum disorders in countries where multiple doses are almost universally administered [9]. Also, as shown by Goldman and Miller in studies published in 2011 and 2012, strong correlations between infant mortality rates and the number of doses of vaccines administered also suggest deleterious impact of multiple exposures to their components.
Follow-up experiments focusing on Al adjuvants in mice by Khan et al. [106] have shown that the adjuvants do not stay localized in the muscle tissue upon intramuscular injection. The particles can travel to the spleen and brain where they can be detected up to a year after the injection. Such findings refute the notion that adjuvant nanoparticles remain localized and act through a “depot effect.” On the contrary, the Al from vaccine adjuvants does cross the blood-brain and blood-cerebrospinal fluid barriers and incites deleterious immunoinflammatory responses in neural tissues [1–3, 9]. Tracking experiments in mice reveal that some Al hydroxide nanoparticles escape the injected muscle inside immune system cells such as macrophages, which travel to regional draining lymph nodes, where it can exit to the bloodstream gaining access to all organ systems, including the brain. As Khan et al. [106] have warned, repeated doses of Al hydroxide are “insidiously unsafe,” especially in closely spaced challenges presented to an infant or a person with damaged or immature blood brain or cerebrospinal fluid barriers [2]. Given macrophages acting as highly mobile “Trojan horses” [107], the Khan et al. warning suggests that cumulative Al from repeated doses in vaccines can produce the cognitive deficits associated with long-term encephalopathies and degenerative dementias in humans [40, 99].

The latest research by Luján et al. [43] described a severe neurodegenerative syndrome in commercial sheep linked to the repetitive inoculation of Al-containing vaccines. In particular, the “sheep adjuvant syndrome” mimics in many aspects human neurological diseases linked to Al adjuvants. Moreover, the outcomes in sheep were first identified following a mass-vaccination campaign against blue tongue and have now been successfully reproduced under experimental conditions following administration of Al-containing vaccines. Notably, the adverse chronic phase of this syndrome affects 50–70% of the treated flocks and up to 100% of the animals within a given flock. The disorder is made worse by cold weather conditions, suggesting synergy with other stress producing factors. The disorder is characterized by severe neurobehavioral outcomes—restlessness, compulsive wool biting, generalized weakness, muscle tremors, loss of response to stimuli, ataxia, tetraplegia, stupor, inflammatory lesions in the brain and the presence of Al in the CNS tissues, coma, and death [43]. These findings confirm and extend those of Khan et al. [106] who demonstrated the ability of Al adjuvants to cross the BBB, and they show that Al in the brain can trigger severe long-term neurological damage. The findings by Luján et al. [43] and Khan et al. [106] also show how and why reported adverse reactions following vaccinations are most commonly neurological and neuropsychiatric."
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4202242/
  • Sandi
18 Sep 2018 18:38 - 19 Sep 2018 16:57
Replied by Sandi on topic Autoimmune Disorders Exploding
This article is well worth reading if you can get past the name of the actual website. I have provided links from highly credible studies below. Critical thinking is key. None of this is rare: it is simply denied and goes unrecognized. I'm a researcher and this is where it has led me. It is not hard to understand why or how this happens; the reasoning is quite simple. Autoimmunity is simply 'intolerance to 'self'' and if a body can reject it's own cells/tissues, then certainly it can go on a full scale attack on unknown foreign substances, causing inflammation and damage along the way.

"In 2011, Israeli physician and immune researcher Yehuda Shoenfeld proposed a new umbrella term for all of the diverse immune reactions to foreign substances—or adjuvants—in the body. He called it ASIA, and it is now sometimes called Shoenfeld's syndrome.
Shoenfeld is the founder of the Zabludowicz Center for Autoimmune Diseases at the Sheba Medical Center in Tel Aviv. In his more than four decades practicing immunology, he has authored or edited 35 textbooks on the immune system and published more than 1,850 research papers in medical journals.
The adjuvants Shoenfeld refers to in ASIA syndrome are substances or toxins capable of whipping the immune system into action. The persistent presence of these materials in some individuals provokes vague and sundry symptoms—chronic fatigue, muscle and joint pain, sleep disturbances, cognitive impairment, skin rashes and more—though Shoenfeld recognizes that they share the common underlying trigger of certain immune signaling pathways. Sometimes this low-grade inflammation can smolder for years only to suddenly incite an overt autoimmune disease.
In one full-day session, Abdullah Watad, a resident physician at Sheba Medical Center in Tel Aviv, explained that many vaccines including the human papilloma virus (HPV) vaccine and the hepatitis B (Hep B) vaccine contain aluminum because of its natural ability to jump-start the immune system into action against a vaccine virus. When the practice began in the 1920s, there was no understanding of how this vaccine adjuvant worked or if it was safe—only that it did the job.
Now a well-documented neurotoxin, aluminum is known to trigger a storm of unseen immune warfare—recruiting immune system combatants like macrophages, stimulating the production of cells such as neutrophils, and increasing the secretion of inflammatory cytokines like interleukins that signal other players to swing into motion, igniting domino effects that are poorly understood but differ from natural infection."

www.wddty.com/magazine/2018/september/poisoned-in-slow-motion.html

"Over the past decades, a wealth of information has been reported about the pathogenic features of immune thrombocytopenia (ITP). To this day, however, it is unclear whether the immune abnormalities associated with ITP play causative roles in the disease or are secondary epiphenomena brought on by the inflammatory processes that are associated with the disorder. Like the majority of all autoimmune diseases, ITP is an organ‐specific disease and abnormalities in immune cell types, such as antigen‐presenting cells (APC), T cells and B cells have been shown to play some sort of role in the initiation and/or perpetuation of the disease. This review will discuss recent advances in understanding three immune cells important in ITP pathophysiology: APC, T cells and B cells, and will review how they interact with each other to initiate and perpetuate ITP, particularly the chronic form of the disorder. It will also focus on new data related to the genetics of the disorder and discuss relevant animal models of ITP."
See more.......

onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/bjh.12480

Here are links to back it up:

"Thimerosal is an organic-mercury (Hg) based compound, used as a preservative in many childhood vaccines, in the past and present. To date, there have been over 165 studies that focused on Thimerosal and found it to be harmful [1, 2]. (A comprehensive list of these studies is shown at mercury-freedrugs.org/docs/20140329_Kern_JK_ExcelFile_TM_sHarm_ReferenceList_v33.xlsx .) Of these studies, 16 were conducted to specifically examine the effects of Thimerosal on human infants and/or children [3–18]. Within these studies, which focused on human infants and/or children, the reported outcomes following Thimerosal exposure were (1) death [3]; (2) acrodynia [4]; (3) poisoning [5]; (4) allergic reaction [6]; (5) malformations [7]; (6) autoimmune reaction [8]; (7) Well's syndrome [9]; (8) developmental delay [10–13]; and (9) neurodevelopmental disorders, including tics, speech delay, language delay, attention deficit disorder, and autism.

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4065774/

"Over the last 200 years, mining, smelting, and refining of aluminum (Al) in various forms have increasingly exposed living species to this naturally abundant metal. Because of its prevalence in the earth's crust, prior to its recent uses it was regarded as inert and therefore harmless. However, Al is invariably toxic to living systems and has no known beneficial role in any biological systems. Humans are increasingly exposed to Al from food, water, medicinals, vaccines, and cosmetics, as well as from industrial occupational exposure. Al disrupts biological self-ordering, energy transduction, and signaling systems, thus increasing biosemiotic entropy. Beginning with the biophysics of water, disruption progresses through the macromolecules that are crucial to living processes (DNAs, RNAs, proteoglycans, and proteins). It injures cells, circuits, and subsystems and can cause catastrophic failures ending in death. Al forms toxic complexes with other elements, such as fluorine, and interacts negatively with mercury, lead, and glyphosate. Al negatively impacts the central nervous system in all species that have been studied, including humans. Because of the global impacts of Al on water dynamics and biosemiotic systems, CNS disorders in humans are sensitive indicators of the Al toxicants to which we are being exposed."

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4202242/

"Autoimmune diseases, including multiple sclerosis and type 1 diabetes mellitus, affect about 5% of the worldwide population. In the last decade, reports have accumulated on various autoimmune disorders, such as idiopathic thrombocytopenia purpura, myopericarditis, primary ovarian failure, and systemic lupus erythematosus (SLE), following vaccination. In this review, we discuss the possible underlying mechanisms of autoimmune reactions following vaccinations and review cases of autoimmune diseases that have been correlated with vaccination. Molecular mimicry and bystander activation are reported as possible mechanisms by which vaccines can cause autoimmune reactions. The individuals who might be susceptible to develop these reactions could be especially not only those with previous post-vaccination phenomena and those with allergies but also in individuals who are prone to develop autoimmune diseases, such as those with a family history of autoimmunity or with known autoantibodies, and the genetic predisposed individuals."

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5607155/

"The autoimmune/inflammatory syndrome induced by adjuvants (ASIA) is a recently identified condition in which the exposure to an adjuvant leads to an aberrant autoimmune response. We aimed to summarize the results obtained from the ASIA syndrome registry up to December 2016, in a descriptive analysis of 300 cases of ASIA syndrome, with a focus on the adjuvants, the clinical manifestations, and the relationship with other autoimmune diseases. A Web-based registry, based on a multicenter international study, collected clinical and laboratory data in a form of a questionnaire applied to patients with ASIA syndrome. Experts in the disease validated all cases independently. A comparison study regarding type of adjuvants and differences in clinical and laboratory findings was performed. Three hundred patients were analyzed. The mean age at disease onset was 37 years, and the mean duration of time latency between adjuvant stimuli and development of autoimmune conditions was 16.8 months, ranging between 3 days to 5 years. Arthralgia, myalgia, and chronic fatigue were the most frequently reported symptoms. Eighty-nine percent of patients were also diagnosed with another defined rheumatic/autoimmune condition. The most frequent autoimmune disease related to ASIA syndrome was undifferentiated connective tissue disease (UCTD). ASIA syndrome is associated with a high incidence of UCTD and positive anti-nuclear antibodies (ANA) test. Clinical and laboratory features differ from the type of adjuvant used. These findings may contribute to an increased awareness of ASIA syndrome and help physicians to identify patients at a greater risk of autoimmune diseases following the exposure to vaccines and other adjuvants. The ASIA syndrome registry provides a useful tool to systematize this rare condition."

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28741088

Recipe for Fostering Public Interest and High Vaccine Demand
www.nationalacademies.org/hmd/~/media/E9B963EDB28645C5ABCC22467120662D.ashx

"David Tian, 24, a first-year Harvard Medical student, said: “Before coming here (Harvard), I had no idea how much influence companies had on medical education. And it’s something that’s purposely meant to be under the table, providing information under the guise of education when that information is also presented for marketing purposes.”

www.nytimes.com/2009/03/03/business/03medschool.html?smid=fb-share

"Full efficacy data for the 2017-2018 flu season are still being compiled, but pEpitope has predicted it will be around 19 percent against H3N2, the type of influenza A that infected most people in the U.S. in each of the past two years. The Food and Drug Administration chose the same vaccine formulation in 2017 and 2016, in part because the dominant circulating strain stayed the same. In 2016, the vaccine had an efficacy of 20 percent, almost identical to the efficacy of 19 percent predicted by pEpitope.
Efficacy is the measure of how effective a vaccine is at protecting the overall population. A 20 percent efficacy means that in a population, 20 percent fewer vaccinated people will get the flu compared to the unvaccinated people."

www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/04/180419131015.htm

"The results of this review seem to discourage the utilisation of vaccination against influenza in healthy adults as a routine public health measure.
As healthy adults have a low risk of complications due to respiratory disease, the use of the vaccine may be only advised as an individual protection measure against symptoms in specific cases.”

ahrp.org/cochrane-collaboration-flu-vaccines-of-no-benefit/

"Since the implementation of the mass vaccination campaign against hepatitis B in France, the appearance of multiple sclerosis, sometimes occurring in the aftermath of vaccinations, led to the publication of epidemiological international studies. This was also justified by the sharp increase in the annual incidence of multiple sclerosis reported to the French health insurance in the mid-1990s. Almost 20 years later, a retrospective reflection can be sketched from these official data and also from the national pharmacovigilance agency. Statistical data from these latter sources seem to show a significant correlation between the number of hepatitis B vaccinations performed and the declaration to the pharmacovigilance of multiple sclerosis occurring between 1 and 2 years later. The application of the Hill’s criteria to these data indicates that the correlation between hepatitis B vaccine and multiple sclerosis may be causal."

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4065774/

"Vaccinations have been used as an essential tool in the fight against infectious diseases, and succeeded in improving public health. However, adverse effects, including autoimmune conditions may occur following vaccinations (autoimmune/inflammatory syndrome induced by adjuvants--ASIA syndrome). It has been postulated that autoimmunity could be triggered or enhanced by the vaccine immunogen contents, as well as by adjuvants, which are used to increase the immune reaction to the immunogen. Fortunately, vaccination-related ASIA is uncommon. Yet, by defining individuals at risk we may further limit the number of individuals developing post-vaccination ASIA. In this perspective we defined four groups of individuals who might be susceptible to develop vaccination-induced ASIA: patients with prior post-vaccination autoimmune phenomena, patients with a medical history of autoimmunity, patients with a history of allergic reactions, and individuals who are prone to develop autoimmunity (having a family history of autoimmune diseases; asymptomatic carriers of autoantibodies; carrying certain genetic profiles, etc.)."

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25277820/

"A number of previous studies have suggested that flu shots could reduce the number of community-living elderly people who die in winter by as much as 50%, according to the report by Lone Simonsen, PhD, of the National Institutes of Health (NIH), and colleagues from NIH and other organizations.

But the authors say they could find no evidence that increasing flu vaccination coverage among people 65 and older lowered mortality rates. Further, they concluded that the number of flu-related deaths in the elderly from 1968 through 2001 was never more than 10% of all winter deaths, suggesting that flu immunization could have only a relatively small effect on total death rates.

"We conclude . . . that there are not enough influenza-related deaths to support the conclusion that vaccination can reduce total winter mortality among the US elderly population by as much as half," states the article, published yesterday in Archives of Internal Medicine."

www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2005/02/study-flu-shots-elderly-dont-cut-mortality-rate

"US data on influenza deaths are a mess. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) acknowledges a difference between flu death and flu associated death yet uses the terms interchangeably. Additionally, there are significant statistical incompatibilities between official estimates and national vital statistics data. Compounding these problems is a marketing of fear—a CDC communications strategy in which medical experts “predict dire outcomes” during flu seasons."

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1309667/

"The ACIP policy recommendation of routinely administering influenza vaccine during pregnancy is ill-advised and unsupported
by current scientific literature, and it should be withdrawn. Use of thimerosal during pregnancy should be contraindicated."

thinktwice.com/Influenza_vaccination_during_pregnancy_Ayoub_Yazbak.pdf

One vaccine insert:

Blood and Lymphatic System Disorders
Lymphadenopathy.
Cardiac Disorders
Tachycardia.
Ear and Labyrinth Disorders
Vertigo.
Eye Disorders
Conjunctivitis, eye irritation, eye pain, eye redness, eye swelling, eyelid swelling.
Gastrointestinal Disorders
Abdominal pain or discomfort,
swelling of the mouth, throat, and/or tongue.
General Disorders and Administration Site Conditions
Asthenia, chest pain, influenza-like illness, feeling hot, injection site mass, injection site reaction,
injection site warmth, body aches
.Immune System Disorders
Anaphylactic reaction including shock, anaphylactoid reaction, hypersensitivity, serum sickness.
Infections and Infestations
Injection site abscess, injection site cellulitis, pharyngitis, rhinitis, tonsillitisNervous System Disorders
Convulsion, encephalomyelitis, facial palsy, facial paresis, Guillain-Barré syndrome, hypoesthesia,
myelitis, neuritis, neuropathy, paresthesia, syncope.
Respiratory, Thoracic ,and Mediastinal Disorders
Asthma, bronchospasm, dyspnea, respiratory distress, stridor.
Skin and Subcutaneous Tissue Disorders
Angioedema, erythema, erythema multiforme, facial swelling, pruritus, Stevens-Johnson syndrome, sweating,
urticaria.
Vascular Disorders
Henoch-Schönlein purpura, vasculitis
www.gsksource.com/pharma/content/dam/GlaxoSmithKline/US/en/Prescribing_Information/Fluarix_Quadrivalent/pdf/FLUARIX-QUADRIVALENT.PDF

Another insert:

Blood and Lymphatic System Disorders:
Thrombocytopenia, lymphadenopathy
Immune System Disorders:
Anaphylaxis, other allergic/hypersensitivity reactions (including urticaria, angioedema)
Eye Disorders:
Ocular hyperemia
Nervous System Disorders:
Guillain-Barré syndrome (GBS), convulsions, febrile convulsions, myelitis (including encephalomyelitis and transverse myelitis), facial palsy (Bell’s palsy), optic neuritis/neuropathy, brachial neuritis, syncope (shortly after vaccination), dizziness, paresthesia
Vascular Disorders:
Vasculitis, vasodilatation/flushing
Respiratory, Thoracic and Mediastinal Disorders:
Dyspnea, pharyngitis, rhinitis, cough, wheezing, throat tightness
Skin and Subcutaneous Tissue Disorders:
Stevens-Johnson syndrom
General Disorders and Administration Site Conditions:
Pruritus, asthenia/fatigue, pain in extremities, chest pain
Gastrointestinal Disorders:
Vomiting, Nausea, diarrhea
General Disorders and Administration Site Conditions:
Chills
www.vaccineshoppe.com/image.cfm?pi=fluHD&image_type=product_pdf

I have many more studies.
  • MuiseFamily6
20 May 2018 19:23
Replied by MuiseFamily6 on topic autoimmune lymphoproliferative syndrome
I actually have 3 other children and other than 1 having autism and the 1 that is also in gymnastics having ADHD, they are overall quite healthy. Thank God! We are in Georgia, USA. It is great that we can get tests back quite fast, at least compared to how long it usually takes to see a specialist. A lot of the time we are able to get the tests done before seeing the specialist so that they have the results by the time we see them for the first time.
Her Pre-school teachers have been amazing! They are taking turns working with her 1 on 1 as her delays make it where she needs the 1 on 1 help and they are always asking how she is doing as far as health and what they can do to help. When she was in the hospital, they checked on her daily. She will be starting Kindergarten in August and I am nervous. She will be going into the public school system and is currently on the list to get tested for assistance but we are also switching school zones this summer so we know very little about the school.
  • Sandi
13 Mar 2018 15:23
Replied by Sandi on topic Sandi seriously?!
It will never cease to amaze me that people will automatically defend vaccines without even looking into it. There's this huge cognitive dissonance. They are no different than a drug. You'd read the side effects of a drug and believe those were possible, wouldn't you? How can anyone consider themselves to be informed without even taking a look? Vaccines are not just comprised of saline and a disease antigen. They are full of toxic ingredients. The whole purpose of the adjuvants is to cause an inflammatory response so the antigen lasts longer. Some people can handle it, some cannot, especially those of us with autoimmune issues. I've never describe them as vile, evil and nasty. I've pointed out the dangers which are well documented, especially in the vaccine inserts themselves. SIDS is listed as a side effect. How many people are aware of that? If you knew, wouldn't you think twice before injecting it into your baby? They have animal cells in them....dog, pig, chicken, monkey and most recently, caterpillar. If you study what that can do to the body on a cellular level, you get a better understanding of the things that can go wrong. They have carcinogenic and tumorigenic ingredients, as well as neurotoxins. Anyone who personally wants to keep getting vaccines, go for it. It's your decision. I got one myself about six years ago before I began to look into it. I will never do it again. Shortly after that, the joints in my hands began to swell and have been getting worse ever since. I'm losing basic hand function. All I was trying to do is raise awareness.

If they were so safe, why would there be a special fund set up (National Vaccine Injury Compensation) that has paid out over 4 billion since 1986? Why are vaccine manufacturer's not held liable for vaccine injuries? Why are safety studies not held to the same standards as those for drugs? I could go on and on.

If autism and vaccines were discussed in the past, it's because the discussion got pulled in a hundred different directions and got off-track. I started the thread initially about autoimmune disorders and that was my point.
  • MelA
13 Mar 2018 13:59
Replied by MelA on topic Sandi seriously?!
I am not going to get into an argument with you - and I did not discuss YOU behind your back, I discussed that a thread about vaccines and autism by Autism Speaks I started was locked where all other threads about vaccines and how vile & nasty & evil & not necessary they are, which is a controversial topic, have never been locked. And autism/vaccines have been discussed here in the past.

No heads up needed as no discussion about YOU!
  • Sandi
13 Mar 2018 00:31
Replied by Sandi on topic Sandi seriously?!
Mel - I have not locked or deleted a thread in years! Can you even find another one? That is a very unfair, inaccurate statement. You've been here long enough to know that isn't true.

What's going on? I don't know where this sudden attack is coming from. I locked a thread about an autism controversy. Can't you understand why after my explanation? Did you really want to go back and forth about autism? If you'd like to politely discuss vaccines and autoimmune disorders, go to my thread about Autoimmune Disorders Exploding. I'd be happy to discuss that with you.

If you're unhappy with me as a Moderator, write a complaint to Carolyn. I get no compensation for this and have tried to do the best job that I could for years. I try to be fair. I can be replaced at her discretion.

I wasn't aware that you discussed me behind my back. Thanks for the heads up.....appreciate that.
  • Sandi
12 Mar 2018 23:16 - 12 Mar 2018 23:18
Replied by Sandi on topic Sandi seriously?!
Mel:

I did not lock it because you and I disagree. I locked it because that debate can get heated (with many people, not just you) and the PDSA policy is that there should not be discussions on controversial topics. I know vaccines have been discussed in the other thread and it did get somewhat heated, but I was posting articles about autoimmune disorders, not autism. The topic about autoimmune disorders is very relevant to us, especially since ITP is listed in the vaccine package inserts. There is a very real disorder called "AISA" or Autoimmune Inflammatory Syndrome Induced by Adjuvants.

"In 2011 a new syndrome termed 'ASIA Autoimmune/Inflammatory Syndrome Induced by Adjuvants' was defined pointing to summarize for the first time the spectrum of immune-mediated diseases triggered by an adjuvant stimulus such as chronic exposure to silicone, tetramethylpentadecane, pristane, aluminum and other adjuvants, as well as infectious components, that also may have an adjuvant effect. All these environmental factors have been found to induce autoimmunity by themselves both in animal models and in humans: for instance, silicone was associated with siliconosis, aluminum hydroxide with post-vaccination phenomena and macrophagic myofasciitis syndrome. Several mechanisms have been hypothesized to be involved in the onset of adjuvant-induced autoimmunity; a genetic favorable background plays a key role in the appearance on such vaccine-related diseases and also justifies the rarity of these phenomena. This paper will focus on protean facets which are part of ASIA, focusing on the roles and mechanisms of action of different adjuvants which lead to the autoimmune/inflammatory response. The data herein illustrate the critical role of environmental factors in the induction of autoimmunity. Indeed, it is the interplay of genetic susceptibility and environment that is the major player for the initiation of breach of tolerance."
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24238833

All of us do whatever we can to keep counts up and try to avoid triggers. We also do what we can to avoid getting another autoimmune diagnosis. This has nothing to do with childhood vaccines and autism and I don't understand where that came from all of a sudden. People assume that vaccines are perfectly safe. They are not. All it takes is reading the actual inserts and seeing all of the side effects to see that. I've also researched the adjuvants and read actual studies. Most of the time, saline placebos are not used in the safety studies; they use another vaccine to compare so the side effects will be comparable on both sides. I don't know....if someone were trying to tell me something like that, I'd keep an open mind and look into it. I wouldn't say any of this unless I was sure of it. I've done three years of research. In the package insert for Gardasil, 'death' is listed right in between fever and chills. Wouldn't you want to know that as a parent before deciding on it? Girls ARE dying. Informed consent is totally missing whenever anyone is injected with vaccines. Well, that's off-topic so all I will say at this point is that autism is irrelevant and that is why I locked it, not because we disagree. I've been disagreed with before on many other things and never locked a thread.
  • MelA
12 Mar 2018 22:15
Sandi seriously?! was created by MelA
You locked the thread? Did you do that because I do not agree with you? That is from Autism Speaks, they should know - but since you do not agree with it you lock it. That blows my mind! You can post anything YOU want regarding vaccines but no on one else can - got it, as long as you agree with an answer or a topic it is ok, but if you do not agree with it then you move it and/or you lock it. It will be interesting to see how long you allow this thread to stay!
  • ytsejam02
18 Sep 2017 14:20
Replied by ytsejam02 on topic Autoimmune Disorders Exploding

Sandi wrote: You're right, genetics play a role. The study of genetics combined with external factors, is called Epigenetics. This involves the study of external factors and how they play a role in switching genes on and off which can trigger various disorders.


Some of the more fascinating studies are with identical twins where one gets something like autism, and the other does not.

I've heard a bit about epigenetics. It sounds promising, but apparently is in its infancy. Seems like most people were looking for silver bullets... one gene to point to and say Aha! That one is causing this type of cancer, or this autoimmune condition. Some of the research I've heard about is starting to looking at multiple genes influencing the disorder, which is not remotely surprising!
  • Summer
11 May 2017 04:51
Replied by Summer on topic Has anyone used homeopathy to treat ITP?
Hi Sandi, Thank you for your reply. I have met many parents in the last few months whose kids developed ITP soon after their vaccines. Two of the moms are going through a vaccine injury court right now. They've both won their cases, but they haven't been compensated, yet. I guess that takes a long time. We are looking into filing a claim. Just not sure I want to go through all that. They both said it was an ordeal, even though they had clear-cut cases. I've gotten hooked on watching those VAXXED TV youtube videos! I thought it was kind of cool that there was an ITP one, as most of them seem to be about autism or seizures. I about fell off my chair when she started talking about ITP! Why is everyone so skeptical of homeopathy? I've seen it for years at our organic grocery store, but I've never used it. It doesn't seem like they would sell it if it was dangerous. We are eagerly awaiting spontaneous remission here--so sick of this , it's getting very old and my daughter is so done with it!
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