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  • mrsb04
10 Mar 2025 08:15
Replied by mrsb04 on topic Nplate
Charlotte

I've had 2 spells on  NPlate both times my count was up and down like a yoyo. The second time my hip bones ached so much I gave it up as a bad job when my count dropped to from over 100 to 15. 
  • Coasterdon
09 Mar 2025 20:57
New Member was created by Coasterdon
Hi
I recently joined.  I read a lot of the great info on the site.  
Here is my situation.
5 years ago I had internal bleeding and low hemoglobin.
My blood has been checked since.
They did fix the bleeding and my hemoglobin is much better.
Now 123 was 47.  In ER 5 times.
Now it seems my platelets are low.
Last year my numbers went from 138 in Jan to 117 in March and 79 at the start of Oct
The end of Oct went up to 86.
My Dr has booked me with a hematologist but not till July.
He did an ultrasound and my spleen is enlarged.
I am turning 70 and I don't like that idea.  I also read on here if
you are older it may not help.
I haven't had my blood checked since and I am wondering what 
my numbers are.  Should I get my Dr to check?
My numbers don't seem that bad.
Any advice?
Thanks
Don
  • Vicky14
09 Mar 2025 11:34
Replied by Vicky14 on topic ITP with Allergies and GI issues
I've had allergies and food intolerances. I used to have asthma but cured it through food, 'barley malt extract' mainly in biscuits and some processed breads was basically causing coughing wheezing and asthma. I can't eat too much yeast either. 
  • judielaine
08 Mar 2025 11:19
Hi newly diagnosed person here,

last summer i had a number of episodes of petechiae and heavy bruising which cleared for six months and returned a few weeks ago. Since the petechiae showed up on a Saturday and it was barely any compared to during the summer, i went for the blood test on Monday morning and was down to 6k. I responded well to the IVIg & dex, and this past Monday had a platelet count over 200k.  We'll test weekly the next four weeks and then i am to go back to looking for symptoms and getting a CBC test to check if i've dropped.

If petechiae are the only symptom to trigger a CBC that seems ... late to wait - leading to another hospitalization or need for IVIg. And testing because i feel tired seems hard to tell from other exhaustion and fatigue.

I noticed a few things before the petechiae this time, but don't remember from the summer:

* shortness of breath -- i thought it was the cold weather
* a strange urine smell -- i thought it was just strange, or maybe dehydration? But i drink so much!

and my Samsung watch started yelling at me because my heart rate variability had shot up. Samsung watches started having an "Energy report" in the past few months. Mine mainly tells me i haven't done enough exercise or have done too much (as a sedentary person any little bit of exercise is a big change and the report overreacts). 

So i wondering -- and my hematologist Raj Kasthuri at UNC Health -- if sleeping heart rate variability  might be a precursor to a platelet drop and a signal of an ITP flare.

Cheers,
judi
  • judielaine
08 Mar 2025 11:15
Replied by judielaine on topic ITP with Allergies and GI issues
Hi I'm new to ITP, too. I had ignored my body and its complaints through my youth and thirties, and during trauma therapy began to realize all the discomforts i had that i had ignored or dismissed. I have allergies as well as psoriasis and other skin issues. I have been taking an antihistamine for almost twenty years to ease the symptoms. We thought i had asthma but after fifteen years i was actually tested and don't have asthma. (So now back to an unexplained cough that comes and goes. ) I do have irritable bowel syndrome (and since i don't remember not having it, it seems normal to me). All of this points to an immune system that easily turns on to myself, and the ITP is another case of my immune system turning and attacking me.

The western medical system isn't that great with autoimmune issues. The physical response show up in so many diverse ways; the causes are "stress" and/or dozens of other triggers that other people withstand with no issue. And while you feel miserable -- itching or aching or just tired -- you don't have something that demands response. (Except platelets going under 10k! Wow, that was a different response from a doctor!)

I did work through some food possibilities with a nutritionist, excluding for over a month then challenging my body with the ingredient. I have some sort of reaction with wheat that isn't celliac but is enough that i know that if i reduce wheat use i reduce inflammation.

Inflammatory bowel disease is a cluster of autoimmune issues - it's probably worth turning to the referral mill and getting a referral there.

The ITP revealed itself with petechiae last summer, and i just had my first bout where the platelets were measured low enough that i had to go to the emergency room for IVIg + dex. I had some interestingly anomolous heart rate variability spikes in the nights before the petechiae showed up and the night before they showed up i had a racing heart and was breathing heavily and woke myself up.

Don't know if that's something you'd like to track or not.

Mainly another ADHD person overexplaining! Hope your journey has been smooth these past few months.
  • MelA
07 Mar 2025 00:39
Replied by MelA on topic Rituximab Side Effects Question
Margaret I am so excited for you - 135K, WOW!!!    I am sending good vibes and thoughts and prayers that the increase continues for you!!!     I'm doing ok - I don't recall my last count, wasn't that long ago but I try not to remember them :) it was good though.   Getting my 2nd Shingrix injection in a few weeks so hoping that won't do anything to the count.

What does your research say about mycophnolate?  How long has it been around?  Bless your Mom, 98 and healthy is amazing!!   My Dad passed just shy of his 95th birthday, but he had fallen and broken his hip and that is never good.

Your cat makes me smile - one of our GrandCats was black with green eyes - leaving his house one day I looked up and he was in the 2nd story window, the only reason I knew he was there was because of those 2 green eyes, it was so funny!
  • Margaret
02 Mar 2025 04:06 - 02 Mar 2025 05:46
Replied by Margaret on topic Rituximab Side Effects Question
Thanks Melinda.
I had a test 2ish weeks ago - 135!! - just before reducing mycophenalate to 1 x 500mg a day. Haemotologist still/again wants to wean me off mycophenolate because he is unsure about long-term effects. I'm taking the line that this is his chance to learn about the long term - I come from a long-living family (mother 98, very healthy) so he may be able to track very long term (I'm 72 ) ...
😂
How are things with you?
  • MelA
01 Mar 2025 14:00 - 01 Mar 2025 14:04
Replied by MelA on topic ITP Forum Newbie With Questions
I did ask my hematologist about age (I'm old) and a lower count - he just absolutely LOVES blood, and I really like him and trust him - he said not really.

Only treatments I've had since diagnosis in 1989 are prednisone and 1 WinRho IV - my count right now surprised me and is good, not in range though.  So I can't talk to any other treatments, sorry.

Your 2nd question, why not ask your doctors?  I have a friend who is in the 130ks and does not have ITP, no concern from her PCP.   My hematologist isn't concerned if my count stays stable, that's what I want stable, but last year my count dropped to the low 50s before gum surgery and then he wanted more blood work to keep an eye on it that it wasn't going to drop further.  

I hope someone with more knowledge than me will see your post and answer.

Good luck - keep us posted!
  • MelA
01 Mar 2025 13:53
Replied by MelA on topic Rituximab Side Effects Question
Margaret I'm sorry, I just saw your reply today - had no clue it was here!

How did your last count go?  I think maybe your hematologist was seeing how you would do off everything, maybe even go up in count - sometimes good things happen that we don't expect - but we should get a count if we are not comfortable with what is going on, our body our decision to get a count.

Talk to you later!
Melinda
  • MelA
26 Feb 2025 00:43 - 26 Feb 2025 00:46
Replied by MelA on topic Nplate
Oh Charlotte (our granddaughter would have been named Charlotte had she been born on schedule but she wasn't and her parents best friends named there daughter Charlotte so they picked a different name so things wouldn't be confusing - it is a beautiful name, also a family name in our family) - anyway, NEVER say you are sorry on this site, we don't allow that :)    Your question was legit and WE are sorry we can't answer it. 

You have a lot on your plate bless your heart!!  I'm sorry I didn't reply sooner but I know nothing about Nplate - I've had ITP since 1989 and have just had prednisone and one IV of WinRho when a tetanus booster dropped my count to the gutter, have had no treatment for a number of years but my count is not in the normal range.      I'm not telling you this but I'm older than you and Janet and so happy when birthdays roll around because I've lived another year!

How low does your count go when you start to wean off prednisone?  Are you doing a nice slow taper? 

The one thing certain about ITP is there is nothing certain about ITP.  My ITP actually was caused by a Gamma Globulin injection we had to get before moving to Tokyo or my husband's company wouldn't have let us move - it's not a 3rd world country so we never knew why they required it.  And Gamma Globulin is like  IVIg, so something that should help ITP caused my ITP.  Crazy !

I'm sorry you are depressed but I can understand why!  Please be sure to come back and ask any question/s you want - if we can answer we certainly will - if we  can't we want to support you, encourage you and help you - you are part of our family!!   

Please keep us posted on how you are doing!!  Good thoughts going your way!!
Melinda
  • midwest6708
17 Feb 2025 14:31 - 17 Feb 2025 14:35
Replied by midwest6708 on topic Nplate
Hello, Charlotte.  I'm Janet. 

I first want to apologize for not responding to you right away.  Even if I couldn't answer your question,  I should've offered the moral support that is one of the main goals of this group. I deeply hope you're still here to read this.

You may not realize how much I've already learned from you!  I had never heard of JC virus or testing for it.  That would've been nice to know before I agreed to take Rituxan.  It was it's own kind of nightmare for me, but at least I didn't get PML.

I'm soon to be 75, have had ITP since 2008, have been treated with prednisone, and was weaned off of it once it was clear that NPlate was going to work for me.  There was a point when my hema believed I should be taking both drugs, because my counts were fluctuating all over the map.  I decided on my own to contact one of the leading NPlate experts in the country who told me it works best on its own to avoid those wild fluctuations, and it shouldn't be partnered with other treatments.

In all this time, I've come to discover that the experts can have their theories, but ITP doesn’t give a fig about them.  I've seen multiple people here who've had to adapt the standard treatments to their own bodies' quirky responses and are doing fine.  I'm one of them.  I only need a miniscule dose of NPlate every 2-4 weeks.  Counts stay in the 60 to 150 range most of the time.  Best of all, I take prednisone as extra insurance against a.platelet plunge only when I need a surgical procedure or invasive screening test.

Did NPlate work for you before?  If so, it would be absolutely reasonable to ask about a slow taper off the prednisone to see what happens.  I completely understand your desire to be rid of it.  My bones can't tolerate any more onslaught than they've already endured. 

I hope this helps, at least a bit.  Again, I'm sorry to be so late.
  • CindyL
17 Feb 2025 09:45
Replied by CindyL on topic Nplate
No, don't apologize for asking, Charlotte!  I didn't mean to make you feel like you shouldn't have asked. Truthfully, I'm surprised no one else has replied.
Don't hesitate to ask if you have any more questions!
  • Peteycap1
16 Feb 2025 22:22
ITP Forum Newbie With Questions was created by Peteycap1
I am new here and I'm overwhelmed by all the information. I have had platelet numbers from 111 to the 130s (low range 150) since 2014, 3 years after I was first was diagnosed with afib and had been on DOAC anticoagulants to include Pradaxa and Eliquis. I don't know what my numbers were before 2013 when my PLT number was barely in range.

I read DOACS can move the PLT number down slightly. I also read my age, 76, can lower PLT count slightly too. 

I'm on rate control (Bystolic) and a DOAC (Eliquis) and no other drugs. So I've been in permanent afib since 2011. I'm concerned about bleed risk having 2 bleed risk factors. I don't bleed alot, but had petachiae on my ankles when I was on Pradaxa. There are still "remnants " from then. I've been on Eliquis for 3 years.

Questions:

1) My PCP and electrophysiologist (EP) told me that my PLT count is not a concern as it is stable. Is that true? The PCP said mine is an immune issue, based on my profile and blood work.

2) Where should I start? Food allergy tests? Environmental issues? Something else?

3) Anything else I should know?

Afib has so many causes or associations including genetic factors. They can identify triggers and associations, but not causes. My EP called my afib idiopathic as she doesn't know what caused it. I have no other heart issues and my total cholesterol runs a little under 130 or a little over. 

Thanks.
  • charlotte
16 Feb 2025 16:38
Replied by charlotte on topic Nplate
I understand CindyL I should have never asked ... sorry
  • chalcomb1117
14 Feb 2025 11:36
Replied by chalcomb1117 on topic Promacta treatment
I'm not on here much but I have been on Promacta 50 mg plus 800 mg Papaya Leaf extract for 5+ years with good success and levels at 130-150 and just recently had to switch to Doptelet because of insurance.  I had minimal side effects and liver looked good throughout the treatment.  I hate that I had to switch.
  • chalcomb1117
14 Feb 2025 11:28
Replied by chalcomb1117 on topic Promacta
I took Promacta for 5 years until recent insurance changes. But yes, I had frequent and random aches and pains.
  • Ncruz99
13 Feb 2025 13:08
Promacta was created by Ncruz99
Hello, I was diagnosed with ITP in November of 2023. I was given IVIG and dexamethasone at the start but had short term remission. I've been taking promacta since February of 2024 and have been experiencing headaches and body aches that have worsened over the last few months although my CBC appears normal. Are these common side effects of promacta?
  • CindyL
13 Feb 2025 09:34
Replied by CindyL on topic Nplate
Hi, Charlotte.
None of us are really qualified to tell you what dose of any medication to take.  The only one who can do that is your doctor.
  • charlotte
12 Feb 2025 15:49
Nplate was created by charlotte
I have been on prednisone 14 months. When I start weaning off my platelets go into single digits. I had splenectomy 2017 not by choice but my colon ruptured my spleen was swollen so doctors removed it.I had relapse in 2023. I am 71 year young. I can't do Rituxan because of chance another perforation with the infusion plus I don't need 2 colostomy and chances of living through another is slim. I did brain scan showing JC virus so am at high risk for PML. 

I speak with my hema tomorrow about the Nplate shot which I had taken previous before splenectomy. I've been fighting ITP for 26 years.

My question is taking Nplate shot how many mg will I need of prednisone? One of my goal is to get completely off prednisone because of effect it's doing to my body long term. Will hema start be back on 60mg I'm taking 30mg now.

I can't count times I'm been in hospitable getting IVIG past year. It's been a depressing adventure.

I'm at my wit end fighting this I'm depressed every waking day not knowing the right route to kerp counts up at least 50,000.

Hope someone can answer my question I don't trust my hema PA She's not very understanding I can't change hema long traveling it not an option for me 

Thank you 
  • MelA
30 Jan 2025 14:09
Hi MBrookman - I know nothing about Promacta, or a back order of it.
What I would do if I were you is put a post up in the Adult section, more people look there thank in the Chirldren's section.    They might want more info about the back order, how long your daughter has been on Promacta, etc.  

Good luck!! 
  • MBrookman
29 Jan 2025 11:19
Anyone else have this issue?  Promacta has been a miracle drug for her.  She has been off of it for 3 weeks due to a backorder issue.  It is so hard to see her platelet levels drop again and watch her lose all energy.  
  • MelA
26 Jan 2025 14:07 - 26 Jan 2025 14:08
Replied by MelA on topic 2025
Low iron can't be fun Margaret but at least can do something about it.   Can't recall if you had low D also - I did, can't say I have more energy now that I have that under control though.

I was diagnosed in 1989 and when the shingles vaccine 1st came out it was a live virus so couldn't have it - never gave it a 2nd thought even after my 2nd bout as I didn't know there was a new vaccine that wasn't a live virus.  After the 3rd bout I asked about it and found the new one wasn't live - and what they say about each bout being worse than the one before is absolutely correct!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   So you were smart to get vaccinated!!  And now, me too B)

Thank you - our Killian Cat, The Queen of Everything (vets called her that too), was such a wonderful cat!!   She ended up with bad kidneys, was blind in her right eye (didn't know that until she was 3 or 4 yrs, looked normal) and about a year before she went to the Bridge she developed megacolon.    We gave her sub-Q fluids for her kidneys and she was so darn good about it, we didn't do anything for us just for what she needed for a good life and that she did have!!  
  • Margaret
19 Jan 2025 03:57
Replied by Margaret on topic 2025
I thought I'd replied but it disappeared.
I took mycophenolate for over a year, but noticed low energy only when I was on a high dose, twice what I'm taking now. It's probably beause of low iron, a new development for me, but easily treated.
I agree about the Shingrix, it knocked me around too. But better than shingles!
Your cat is lovely too - well, all cats are lovely 😺
  • MelA
19 Jan 2025 00:47
Replied by MelA on topic 2025
Margaret I'm glad you found a treatment that works for you and that you are doing well!   Could the mycophenolate make you tired?   Although I'm with you on it being a side effect of getting oldB)

I recently got my 1st Shingrix injection (after 3 bouts of shingles, last one was in May & the one before that had been 20 years ago) and I slept the rest of that day and the next day.

Take care now and do check in every now and then so we know how you are doing!
(Your cat is beautiful!)



 
  • Margaret
18 Jan 2025 21:32
Replied by Margaret on topic 2025
Going ok thanks, Mel - how about you? Mycophenolate is working for me. I seem to have very low energy but that may be a side effect of getting old 😂.
Hope 2025 will be a good year for you, and everyone here
  • CindyL
17 Jan 2025 09:26
mrsb04 was created by CindyL
How are you doing, mrsb?  Hope you are well.
  • MelA
17 Jan 2025 00:07
Replied by MelA on topic 2025
Thank you Cindy - always good to hear from you!!

And Margaret - how are you doing??
  • bp438
02 Jan 2025 00:32
ITP with Allergies and GI issues was created by bp438
Relatively newly diagnosed and thankfully improving though with no clear answer as to why.  A little over two years ago is when acute symptoms started though remember having some sooner, or I associate them but may be related to my recently discovered allergy.  

I started a new medication, trazadone and did not react well, general nausea that did not go away and in general feeling bad, took for 4-5 days and stopped.  Felt better and a few days after went hiking with a gal.  Not a great day, during wildfire season and was quite smokey, but cute gal.  By end of hike was light headed and not feeling great but nothing I didn't chalk up to the smoke and exertions.  Next morning woke up feeling what I imagined a heart attack felt like, intense chest pain and heart palpitations, left side was weak and loss of some sensation.  Did not worsen and went to doc next morning.  Took blood work and did heart tests, I did have lower platelets in that test ~90, and I felt woozy like I had given too much blood.  Went through cardiologist but heart is healthy, with platelets dropping was referred to hematologist.  Through him was eventually diagnosed with ITP.  My platelets continued to drop till this last spring to low 70s and since them has rebounded to 138.  Symptoms I regularly experience and associate: light headedness, cold extremities, fatigue, brain fog, weakness, shortness of breath, temperature intolerance (easily cold or hot)/thermoregulation issues.  While not directly associated I have regularly experienced diarrhea  since around this began as well, though may be earlier.

As I have been pursuing things I discovered I have a significant mold allergy to Alternaria tenuis, recently in last two months started immunotherapy treatment.  Started treatment long after the platelet turn around though and does not appear as yet to be improving or harming things.  Other things that I have noticed and additional history; I have had gastro issues (heartburn mostly but quite severe) since I deployed to Afghanistan 2012/2013.  I have discovered I have hiatal hernia likely from an injury sustained.  While deployed I took doxycycline and took primaquine at end of deployment.  I feel strongly that my GI issues are related to my ITP, in general noticing GI distress and ITP symptoms correlating, and as part of treatment for GI was prescribed double dose of omeprazole.  During initial 8 week treatment is the only time between initial onset and this springs turn around that my platelets improved, and dropped immediately after stopping.  I also noticed symptomatic improvement.  Right before my climb began again this spring I started taking omeprazole again regularly and have since.  I know its not supposed to positively affect platelets and have ruled out any GI issues that would negatively affect this such as gastritis, though have not had colonoscopy so UC is possible.  No food allergies confirmed, but after some rabbit holes I do seem to be inflamed by foods high in histamine, tomatoes and alcohol especially, with bananas being an exception that usually helps instead, and these are hardly uncommon heartburn triggers so may be nothing.

I thankfully did not get to requiring direct treatment and my diet long before this started was quite good consisting of whole foods, I'm a big gardener and often grow 6 months of my own vegetables or more.  But I have been more cognizant and can always adjust things.  I reduced and for about 6 months eliminated all drinking before starting again.  I take b12, magnesium citrate 1-2 week, citracal + 5/week, and a few months ago started taking a fiber supplement which has eliminated the diarrhea.  I have ADHD and have been taking my medications on and off again, as I have noticed it sometimes contributes to worsening some of my symptoms, mainly the cold extremities, but I have dialed the dose in to not seem to inflame it as much.  I also take antihistamines when I go in for the shot, allegra currently and that seems to work best so far.

As I have started immunotherapy for the allergy I have noticed some increased spikes in some of my symptoms immediately following like cold extremities, tight chest, light headed.  It is quite possible that some of the symptoms I have associated with ITP may be more closely related to the allergy, though also could simply be closely tied to each other.  For a few years i did take Benadryl as a sleep aide but stopped a few years before this all started.  Its possible it held my allergy in check and once stopped started building in my system.  I do recall times before ITP started having sudden onsets of lightheadedness and weakness while working outside but mostly attributed it to being out of shape at the time.  Cold extremities though is only with onset that I can recall.

I also have been dealing with for last 2ish years tendonitis, left and right arms though right arm mores severe as I had injured my elbow and wrist in2019 and never fully healed.  I also have a mystery tightness in my back knees and lower legs that started a little after this and has not been diagnosed and comes and goes in severity with stretching helping.  I have made progress but have been resistant to healing even for a tendonitis injury.

Would be very interested to know if anyone has had GI and ITP issues that seem related and have found ways to improve it.  Same for allergies.  While my Hematologist is great, dealing with specialists is frustrating, they don't want to see the human body as connected at all and my primary care is fine but overworked and mostly a referral mill for me and occasional check up.  I strongly wonder if the antibiotics while deployed contributed.  I have also read some things on histamines in food and am considering trying that to see if improvement occurs.  

In general my blood work is good, though I seem to have naturally lower hematocrit and hemoglobin levels, they have stayed consistently just below the norm line to just on it, most recent is a little higher but time will tell if that is a trend or not.  Since May my Abs immature grans are slightly elevated .1 K/uL, they were elevated when initially started treatment for a few months before going down till May this year.  My SGPT/ALT has also been elevated since May, 69 IU/L.  It was also in beginning and also went down, no cause determined by GI doc.  Is possible since the mold is mostly active during warm season that it is related to exposure to it, though doesn't explain lack of elevation in 2023.

I'm sure I'm forgetting something.  I'm glad my situation has improved though frustrated that there is no clear reason for it improving, last winter was miserable.  Appreciate any advice or suggestions.
  • bp438
01 Jan 2025 20:24
Replied by bp438 on topic Hematologist in Seattle
I don't know about Seattle but I would recommend mine, Dr. Rangajaran in Tacoma. www.multicare.org/provider/sunil-rangarajan/

Straight shooter and helped me when I first started having issues a few years ago and got to the diagnosis.
  • MelA
01 Jan 2025 14:47
Replied by MelA on topic ITP since 13
There is a difference in "never finding" and "believed I had" - personally I would like a concrete answer before doing anything that would give the "holistic practitioner" money for doing a procedure. Did the procedure work or were you one of the lucky ones that didn't have lasting ITP?
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