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My daughter was hospitalized 4 months ago with a platelet count of 1000, was given Igg infusion that brought her platelets up to 120 after a week. A week later her platelets started dropping o 112, 92.... After researching alternative cures I found papaya leaf extract and pills on the Internet. After having her take vitamin C and the papaya leaf her platelets jumped to 180 then to 350k within 2 weeks!!!! Her doctors were scheduling her for another transfusion expecting her platelets to keep dropping, they were shocked at the amazing results of the vitamins!!! Safe, no side effects, she is doing great. For anyone who has low platelets, please give this a shot!! It can't hurt!

How old is your daughter?

Glad your daughter is doing well, but:

I just want to point out that we all must be wary of a new member (less than a day) posting a specific, unproven, "miracle" cure, especially relating to desperate parents who will try anything to help their child.

for pete's sake tad, its only vitamin c and papaya leaf. you think its going to kill someone?

Well Tad,
I think you make a valid point, which should be taken into consideration.
When people make their decision on this matter, any claim made, should be able to stand up to scrutiny. I don't see a problem in that?
Benny.

But in fact none of the weird and wonderful cures stand up to scrutiny, do they?

Hi Freckles.

No, I didn't mean to imply any untimely death, disasters or dismemberment!

What I AM implying is the possibility that some people "troll" medical discussion forums, and use them to push, or in a sense "advertise" some sort of "miracle cure" that they have a stake or interest in. I'm just alleging here, but these types of posts usually are new members, post once, do not respond to questions, and are never heard from again. Others, I'm sure, really believe they have found something that works for them. Plus, I get real touchy when it comes to children.

And Anne, yes there are a lot of wacky treatments for this disorder, but they are faced with TONS of scrutiny: closely controlled double blind clinical trials, tests, research, development, data collection, quality control, hoops and hoops and more hoops. It's a long, torturous path to try to get a new drug approved.

Best to all.

Tad wrote:

And Anne, yes there are a lot of wacky treatments for this disorder, but they are faced with TONS of scrutiny: closely controlled double blind clinical trials, tests, research, development, data collection, quality control, hoops and hoops and more hoops. It's a long, torturous path to try to get a new drug approved.

That's good to hear. I'd love to see the reports on the trials held with the papaya leaf extract. Can you show us please?

Ann and Tad - knowing both of you, I think you are misunderstanding each other.

Yes Sandi you are correct!

Looking back, I realize I completely misunderstood Ann - I too, am saying there are no clinical trials for papaya leaf extract as a treatment for ITP - I completely missed her point.

My bad!

What worries me a lot is the claims of lack of side effects. We simply lack documentation of side effects - that's not the same as no side effects. It does scare me when people give concentrated doses of things to their children - how do they know if it will case developmental problems, or who knows what? You can certainly make a point that there are serious risks associated with prescription meds - but those risks are well documented and we can make informed decisions about them.
Erica

Diane before I started treatment I had read about the wonderful results of Papaya Leaf Extract. I was looking for this to be my miracle and to raise my platelets without having any treatment. Unfortunately...I had been on the extract for a few weeks with no result and being that my platelets were so low I felt I had no time and needed to seek treatment. Maybe I had not given the extract a long enough time to work, I don't know.

one problem with the fact that if we know the side effects of prescription drugs we can make informed decisions, is that it doesnt allow us to make those decisions for our kids. the sate does that. as a matter of fact. the state is so fanatical about you not making those decisions that they will send the us marshals and interpol , interpol for gods sake, after you. like they did to that woman, i think from minnesota who didnt want her 15 year old son to got thru anymore chemo. he didnt want to either.

and of course the sad thing is each day there is more evidence about the drawbacks and ineffectivness of treatments like chemo.
i havent heard the media reporting on that specific case anymore, which leads me to believe he's doing poorly on conventional treatment. i'm sure if he died from natural treatment, we'd have heard by now.

Probably you're referring to Daniel Hauser who was 13 at the time and is now in remission from Hodgin's lymphoma.

This case is near where I live and I saw a lot of coverage. Here's an update after his treatment:
scienceblogs.com/insolence/2009/09/daniel_hauser_continues_to_do_well.php

Here is an update focusing on the father's death but mentioning that the boy is still in full remission:
blogs.citypages.com/blotter/2011/08/anthony_hauser_son_refused_chemo_dies.php
The father had leukemia and was fighting it using only a diet of pureed vegetables. The government made no attempt to intervene in this adult's choices about his own treatment.

Erica

Well, chemo saved my Mom's life. She had stage 3 lymphoma (aggressive form) in 1994. Six months of chemo and she's been in remission since. She will be 75 this year. I'm glad I didn't insist on feeding her pureed vegetables.

Kim081:

I gave the papaya leaf extract plenty of time. I took it faithfully for over 6 months, taking 2 tablespoons each morning on empty stomach.

Jan. 2012, they were around 6k, and each week they went up to 13k, 14k, 15k, & 22k. After the 4th week, they dropped to 6k and since Feb. 2012, platelets have been between 6k - 9k.

I continued to take the papaya leaf extract until a couple of weeks ago. It simply has not increased my platelets for the past 5 months of taking it.

I'm sorry to hear that about the Papaya extract not working. I started taking the extract very soon after I was diagnosed this past February and it wasn't long before I started treatment. I think we can pretty much say that the Rituxan is what has increased my platelets and not the papaya extract but I'm afraid to stop taking the extract. It's like, ok, something is working and I don't want to stop doing anything different. I don't want to chance it. If I had only had more time to see if the extract was working before I started treatment. Time was not on my side.

Kim:

Recently, I took the papaya leaf extract for 5 - 6 months.
The papaya leaf extract did "not" work for me as I posted a couple weeks ago.
I've only read of one person who feels sure it has worked.

Can you please inform me about the use of the papaya leaf extract? How should i use it and in what measure?

And you have also mentioned about Vitamin C intake with it.. Please confirm in what form (Amla,Lemon juice or tablets)?

Please confirm the measures of the same.

Thanks in advance.

This is not a new miracle cure. There are numerous articles in scientific journals from around the world that attest to the effectiveness of papaya leaves for low platelets (and new research from the University of Florida shows that papaya leaves are effective against many types of cancer--this research confirms the the folk usage of papaya leaves against cancer). And it is nontoxic! Do the research. But here is an article in the Herald Tribune about a man with dengue fever, a haemorrhagic disease, who cured himself with papaya leaves after his platelets had increased to only 10 after multiple transfusions--brought them up to 450 in 2 days by the expedient of using this "unproven folk remedy"--http://tribune.com.pk/story/254685/true-story-from-platelets-to-papaya-leaves-my-brush-with-dengue/. Here's an article in Science Daily about papaya leaves water extract efficacy against cancer: www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/03/100309182449.htm Granted, these were in vitro tests, but they provide evidence that the numerous long standing folklore reports that papaya leaves are an effective cancer treatment are true. And there are many articles in respected medical journals that demonstrate the mechanism of papaya leaf's ability to upregulate the immune system. Surely you must know that at least half of the drugs in use today are derived from plants. Don't make things so complicated--papaya leaf is nontoxic, you can certainly drink the tea and see what happens, if it works for you. Why are we so cautious with an inexpensive, nontoxic plant that may work when we so recklessly use drugs of dubious efficacy that make us sick? Don't assume by this post that I am against doctors, their knowledge, or modern drugs. I have tremendous respect for them and their methods.

la0508 wrote:

Why are we so cautious with an inexpensive, nontoxic plant that may work when we so recklessly use drugs of dubious efficacy that make us sick?

Maybe for me because they aren't inexpensive and we don't know that they are nontoxic.

As for using drugs recklessly, I don't do that either. I research them thoroughly and weigh up the pros and cons.

the problem here is simple:
you people are not taking enough of the extract, 2 - 4 teaspoons per day of the tincture ( make it yourself if you do not want to spend 60$ for 6 oz, you will save 80% on the cost). Remember you can't patent the tincture, so there is no profit motive from pharmies to pursue this.

Thanks for the tip.. I've seen a few post on the papaya leaf extract, so I bought some from Amazon. I've been taking it for a few days now. My last platelet count taken on 7/8 was 15. I'll see if this helps. I was also given Nplate after my last test.

ben23 wrote:

Thanks for the tip.. I've seen a few post on the papaya leaf extract, so I bought some from Amazon. I've been taking it for a few days now. My last platelet count taken on 7/8 was 15. I'll see if this helps. I was also given Nplate after my last test.

Ben, if your platelets go up, will you think it is the Nplate or the papaya leaf extract?

larryvon wrote:

the problem here is simple:
you people are not taking enough of the extract, 2 - 4 teaspoons per day of the tincture ( make it yourself if you do not want to spend 60$ for 6 oz, you will save 80% on the cost). Remember you can't patent the tincture, so there is no profit motive from pharmies to pursue this.

I expect that "pharmies" don't pursue this because there is no proof of its effectiveness. But, to each their own.

Hey, men, thought you might be interested in this: Oral administration of C. papaya seed extract could induce reversible male infertility and could be used for pharmaceutical development of a male contraceptive.

tamar wrote:

ben23 wrote:

Thanks for the tip.. I've seen a few post on the papaya leaf extract, so I bought some from Amazon. I've been taking it for a few days now. My last platelet count taken on 7/8 was 15. I'll see if this helps. I was also given Nplate after my last test.

Ben, if your platelets go up, will you think it is the Nplate or the papaya leaf extract?

I'm still skeptical about the papaya leaf extract (i'm just trying anything), so I'll say it's the Nplate. However, if my counts are high, then the next shot of Nplate won't be necessary. I will then continue the papaya leaf extract and get my platelet count the following week. Then I will stop the papaya leaf and get another test. At this point, I will know if it is helping at all.

So far, I have not have any positive responses to previous medications (Rituxin, etc). Dexamethasone gave me a boost of platelet counts, but I was back down the following week.

tamar wrote:

Hey, men, thought you might be interested in this: Oral administration of C. papaya seed extract could induce reversible male infertility and could be used for pharmaceutical development of a male contraceptive.

Good thing my wife and I are not planning on having any more kids.

Hi guys. Did anyone try the papaya leave juice? not the extract. If yes please could you tell me where you got it from and if it helped. According to aryuvedic the juice is the best treatment for itp from what i have researched.