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RESEARCH BASED NATURAL PRODUCTS..A SUCCESFUL STORY 9 years 10 months ago #22565

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We began this journey in April last year, when my 12 yrs old daughter was diagnosed with ITP. She was put on prednisone during the summer. This medication worked well on her, but it took several months for her to get her platelets count at normal levels, but once she did not take them anymore, her platelets count went down again.

At the end of december my daughter started showing purple dots & bruises again but the doctors´appointment was not due yet. So, I began searching about natural treatments on internet. I found information about two important products that can be used: omniplus & Achillea millefolium.

Her platelet´s level was 17.000. So, in early january we asked the doctor about omniplus (Omnilife), and she recommended us to use it, because eventhough she can´t prescribe it to us, she has observed some patients responded well to it.. that same day my daughter was on medication (prednisone) and omniplus, which actually reduces all the secondary effects that the medication causes. Two weeks later her platelets were 278.000, so the doctor asked us to progresively take her off the medication...two weeks after her platelet count was 273000 and she keeps taking omniplus every day and she feels so good. At the place that I bought it the firts time, the seller told me that her daughter had ITP 4 yrs ago. She gave her omniplus for two months and it was enough for her to recover. Since then, she has been healthy.

I have not tried the other product, the plant called Achillea Millefolium that I believe you can find in the US as a tea beverage. It has research that supports it´s effectiveness by experiments made by a Mexican doctor, you can download the article here (in spanish) scielo.sld.cu/scielo.php?pid=s0864-03002...p;script=sci_arttext

I actually shared this article to my daughter´s doctor.

more info about Achillea millefolium can be found at:

www.kingdomplantae.net/yarrow.php

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Achillea_millefolium

I hope this info will help your children too.

Good Luck!!!
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Re: RESEARCH BASED NATURAL PRODUCTS..A SUCCESFUL STORY 9 years 10 months ago #22930

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do you have an email address or company name or even a phone number of the omniplus? I would like some more info so I can research it and see if I am able to get it in australia :)

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Re: RESEARCH BASED NATURAL PRODUCTS..A SUCCESFUL STORY 9 years 10 months ago #22944

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Hi Begis,
Is the Omnilife a kind of herb (pills to take them everyday) or a exercise tool to do therapy? Did your daughter have acute or chronic ITP? Thank you.

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Re: RESEARCH BASED NATURAL PRODUCTS..A SUCCESFUL STORY 9 years 10 months ago #22945

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This can be found by doing a search - I used bing

www.omnibien.com/english.html
The above site looks like it is a business site for someone selling the products. Yes, I see now "independent distributor" on the upper right of the page
This looks like the same one as above:
www.omnibien.com/buy_omnilife-online.html
Here's another:
www.omnilife.com/index_regional.php?region=usa&idioma=EN
And another one:
www.omnilife.com/usa/creo.php
How can I purchase
You can purchase products from an Independent Distributor or become one yourself. If you are not already an Independent Distributor of Omnilife products, we invite you to become a part of our ever-growing family. There are two ways to become a member:

1) Ask the person who introduced you to our products and who is an Independent Distributor to sponsor you. This person will need to order a membership KIT for you, which includes a membership agreement. Please complete the application form and forward it to:
4120 Freidrich Lane, Suite #400, Austin, Texas 78744

2) If you do not have a sponsor, please contact our Entrepreneur Support department at the CREO by calling (512) 326-1309 or send us an e-mail at creo@omnilife.com.


What it looks like to me is you have to join for $39.00 and then you get the distributors kit. And if you live in the US you can join too and buy online.

In order to find the product begis mentioned above, Omniplus, you would have to "Download Omnilife Product Price List" - and I will not download anything from a site I do not know.

krsnanandini it does not look like it is in Australia.

begis could you please look at the bottle of Omniplus and tell us what the ingredients are, what is on the label - that would be most helpful. Do you sell these products?

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Re: RESEARCH BASED NATURAL PRODUCTS..A SUCCESFUL STORY 9 years 10 months ago #22950

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I looked at the price list.. a 32 fl oz bottle of OML plus costs $42.18.

Ingredients:

Zinc
Chromium
Copper
Selenium
Manganese
Vitamin B complex
Vitamin C
Vitamin E
Beta-carotene

www.omnilife.com/usa/detail.php?id_cat=873&producto=6138

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Re: RESEARCH BASED NATURAL PRODUCTS..A SUCCESFUL STORY 9 years 10 months ago #22962

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Hi Begis,
What is the difference b/w Multiple Vitamins and Omnilife Kit? See the list of ingredients of Omnilife from Ann I see that these vitamins are in multiple vitamins too. I tried to use the multiple vitamins before, but they did not help too much in raising plalete count. Thank you for sharing your daughter experience.

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Re: RESEARCH BASED NATURAL PRODUCTS..A SUCCESFUL STORY 9 years 10 months ago #22990

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Melinda,

I do get OMNIPLUS in individual liquid packs with the right dosis with dispersed (micelized) microscopic particles that get easily absorbeb by cells. Maria dissolves it in a cup of water once a day.

This is the product (OMNIPLUS) description & benefits:
This product was created thanks to the collaboration of a group of specialists. It has concentrated more than 18 years of proven success around the world in its formulation contains herbal components, minerals and fat soluble micelized vitamins. This technique allows better absorption of Omni Plus at the cells thanks to its fat-soluble vitamins, which means that its benefits are received faster. Among the many benefits of Omni Plus, deserves special attention "strengthening the immune system."

Some of the herbal components of Omni Plus can be mentioned echinacea and spirulina. In addition, a wide range of vitamins and minerals necessary for the proper functioning of most body systems.

Some of the mineral components of Omni Plus

Zinc
- Collaborates on improving the responsiveness of the immune system.
- Involved in optimizing the body's response to the restoration of collagen.
- Participates in the development of secondary sexual characteristics, mainly in men in their transition from adolescence to adulthood.

Chromium
- Is involved in metabolic pathways of sugar utilization by joint action with insulin, resulting in the carbohydrate metabolism more efficient. These effects can result, even in weight control, within diets designed for this purpose.

Copper
- Promotes the use of iron and red blood cell maturation.

Selenium
- Has antioxidant activity.
- Participate in the growth, fertility and immune system.

Manganese
- Involved in the metabolism of fats and carbohydrates.
- Involved in the production of sex hormones.

Some of the vitamin components of Omni Plus:

B complex vitamins (thiamine, riboflavin, niacin, pantothenic acid, pyridoxine, biotin and vitamin B12) as well as water soluble vitamins, which generally involved in:

- The production of energy from food.
- The proper functioning of the nervous system.
- Maintenance of nerves, skin and hair.

Vitamin C or ascorbic acid. Water-soluble vitamin.
- It is an important antioxidant.
- Necessary for normal growth and development.
- Required for optimal immune system function.
- It is essential for the formation of collagen (a protein necessary for the skin, tendons, cartilage and ligaments healthy).
- Helps reduce the risk of scurvy.

Vitamin E (tocopherol). Fat-soluble vitamin. As it becomes more difficult liposoluble absorption but this is facilitated when micellized is (as in the case of Omni Plus).
- Effective antioxidant, which protects the body from the formation of toxic molecules resulting from daily activities of the body and the contaminants to which it is exposed.
- Inhibits the autoxidation of lipids.

Beta-carotene. Beta-carotene is a substance from plants that the body converts to vitamin A.
- Acts as an antioxidant and is necessary in the immune system.
- Participates in the synthesis of certain glycoproteins and its deficiency can cause abnormal bone development, disorders of the reproductive system, xerophthalmia (dry persistent conjunctival and corneal opacity), among others.

This is the web where you can get info & buy the product:

www.omnilife.com/index_regional.php?region=usa&idioma=EN#




Hope this info helps you!!

Beatriz

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Re: RESEARCH BASED NATURAL PRODUCTS..A SUCCESFUL STORY 9 years 10 months ago #22991

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Hi,

They have OMNIPLUS at latin american countries, Spain & USA. This is the web page for USA:

www.omnilife.com/index_regional.php?region=usa&idioma=EN#

Though if you really would like to try it...I may get it for you & send it to Australia. Send me an email...so we can arrange that...begis7@gmail.com

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Re: RESEARCH BASED NATURAL PRODUCTS..A SUCCESFUL STORY 9 years 10 months ago #22992

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I think the difference is that its components are micelized and liposoluble substances that can easily get into the cells =-)

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Re: RESEARCH BASED NATURAL PRODUCTS..A SUCCESFUL STORY 9 years 10 months ago #22994

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Begis, do you receive financial compensation from omniplus? If so, it is inappropriate for you to be selling here.

Just seems very peculiar that you would purchase a product for someone and ship it for them.

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Re: RESEARCH BASED NATURAL PRODUCTS..A SUCCESFUL STORY 9 years 10 months ago #23022

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Kittie
Do you really can even think I am selling a product here...come on...I do get it for my daughter...why it is so unbelievable that latin doctors had come out with a natural product that is so good that you can´t accept it. I just share my experience with the world and you guys that do not have this resources that otherwise you may not even get to know about...I do let people know the web page & I do not care where or who they buy it from...though if someone lives in a country they don´t sell it I will be willing to help them get it...don´t be selfish. I am a PhD scientist & I do not need to make few bucks out of this. Sorry!!!

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Re: RESEARCH BASED NATURAL PRODUCTS..A SUCCESFUL STORY 9 years 10 months ago #23023

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Kittie
Here it is all about people being healthy & share our experiences with ITP...that´s all I care about not $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. If you have good information to share that may help people to get over it...please do so!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: RESEARCH BASED NATURAL PRODUCTS..A SUCCESFUL STORY 9 years 10 months ago #23032

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It was merely a question - and a fair question at that.

I wish I had information to share to help people "get over" ITP, believe me.

Skepticism isn't selfish - its human.
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Re: RESEARCH BASED NATURAL PRODUCTS..A SUCCESFUL STORY 9 years 10 months ago #23047

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Ok, so last tuesday my platelets were at 9000, just one week later they are at 268,000. I have been taking the prednisone 100mg per day. I have also been dosing myself up on alternative therapies, Colloidal silver, swedish bitters, executive B stress multi vit, vitC, vitD,and calcium along with massaging castor oul into my spleen area. I have also been drinking herbal teas such as peppermint, chamomile and dandelion. I have yarrow on order but perhaps won't need it.

I am tapering off the prednisone from tomorrow and will see if my levels drop or wether they are stabilised. I am very encouraged at the speed my platelets have increased and will let you know if they stay the same once I am off the prednisone...
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Re: RESEARCH BASED NATURAL PRODUCTS..A SUCCESFUL STORY 9 years 10 months ago #23056

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Krsna: good luck to you and thank god you are able to begin a taper from 100 mg. that's intense for sure - I've only done up to 60mg a day and I thought I was going crazy on that!!!

I'm sure you have, but please keep your hematologist in the loop with all those supplements you're taking. That's quite a list, and he/she will need to know in case of any interactions. Sometimes even natural stuff can cause reactions/interactions. But I don't blame you for trying - I just got more papaya leaf today and I don't think it's doing a darn thing. :(

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Re: RESEARCH BASED NATURAL PRODUCTS..A SUCCESFUL STORY 9 years 10 months ago #23058

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Thank you for your reply Beatriz. I think I would stay away from this because of the echinacea.


krsnanandini may I ask why you are taking colloidal silver?
www.mayoclinic.com/health/colloidal-silver/AN01682

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Re: RESEARCH BASED NATURAL PRODUCTS..A SUCCESFUL STORY 9 years 10 months ago #23064

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There's a youtube video of a guy who took silver long term and his skin is blue and it's a permanent change so no going back. Others seem to go a more grey colour with a blue tinge.

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Re: RESEARCH BASED NATURAL PRODUCTS..A SUCCESFUL STORY 9 years 10 months ago #23072

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This is the video of the man

www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahihGKZC5Kk

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Re: RESEARCH BASED NATURAL PRODUCTS..A SUCCESFUL STORY 9 years 10 months ago #23077

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i know that silver had been used for thousands of years before there was an american medical association. i would not use it myself, although, hypothetically, if a doctor said you need to take either collidal silver or an injection of nplate that manipulates the biological activity of your bone marrow, i would try the silver.
even though i say i wouldnt take it, for now, i wonder why people , news media or otherwise, get all nervous about it, when in the last 3 years, 250,000 people have died from taking pradaxa, just one of the thousands of drugs that have killed people, and they dont complain much.

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Re: RESEARCH BASED NATURAL PRODUCTS..A SUCCESFUL STORY 9 years 10 months ago #23080

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I didn't see the media getting all nervous about it - do you have any references for that frec?

I think you would look nice as a Smurf.

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Re: RESEARCH BASED NATURAL PRODUCTS..A SUCCESFUL STORY 9 years 10 months ago #23082

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i know that silver had been used for thousands of years before there was an american medical association. i would not use it myself, although, hypothetically, if a doctor said you need to take either collidal silver or an injection of nplate that manipulates the biological activity of your bone marrow, i would try the silver.

If a doctor told me I needed to take silver I'd find another doctor!

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Re: RESEARCH BASED NATURAL PRODUCTS..A SUCCESFUL STORY 9 years 10 months ago #23084

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WOW, HUGE negative feedback about the colloidal silver that I am taking.

Thank you freckles for your open view, in my opinion we all have the right to try any and all availiable natural therapies that feel right for you.

My original experiences with the colloidal silver 2-3 years of on/off use have been that whenever I had lesions/sores in my mouth (a symptom for me of having spleen problems) I would spray with the silver and within the day the lesions would go away. I feel the colloidal silver is working for me due to the positive reactions my body has had over the years and also now that I am taking and will continue to take 1tblsp 3x a day.

I believe that I would have to take heaps of colloidal to turn blue (if this is even the real cause of the blueing) and I am willing to take the risk.

Is the real problem here that I am being so pro active in my approach to the ITP that certain scaremongers are feeling that they have to try to knock me off my perch to make themselves feel better, I note that these people have not even attempted to try the product (as far as I am aware) but still feel qualified to tell me it is not ok to take via the links and videos.

My view is each to their own, BTW I won't give any more replies to this as it is quite tiresome. My energy is better directed at MY WELLNESS rather than trying to justify MY CHOICES for MY HEALING options to people who in MY OPINION have opinions that I don't care about. Oh and I never bothered to look at any of your links or videos bahahaha.

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Re: RESEARCH BASED NATURAL PRODUCTS..A SUCCESFUL STORY 9 years 10 months ago #23085

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The difference is:

Both Silver and N-Plate can cause side effects, but N-Plate is proven to work for ITP whereas Silver is not. You could be taking it for nothing. Although the same is true for N-Plate, the odds of it working are much better.

This discussion is bordering on possibly getting out of hand. Most are maintaining politeness, but I see the line being crossed just a bit.

KRSN - I know you believe in the collodial silver, but I also hope you are doing your research to be sure it's safe. I know I would be appreciative of someone pointing out possible dangers. How do you know it didn't trigger ITP in the first place?

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Re: RESEARCH BASED NATURAL PRODUCTS..A SUCCESFUL STORY 9 years 10 months ago #23091

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Krsnanandini,

As you said your platelets went up soon...follow your heart & keep up with your alternative therapies once you stop taking Prednisone...but as KittieG said let your hematologist know about it just to make sure everything is fine. I sure will be happy to know if your platelets stayed up!!

Good luck!!

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Re: RESEARCH BASED NATURAL PRODUCTS..A SUCCESFUL STORY 9 years 10 months ago #23099

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I could not help myself...www.purestcolloids.com/blue-man.php

hehehe, in a better frame of mind than I was this morning B)

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Re: RESEARCH BASED NATURAL PRODUCTS..A SUCCESFUL STORY 9 years 10 months ago #23100

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That's right. I said in my original post that he took silver which he did. Similarly I almost also pointed out that castor oil contains ricin but didn't think it would be appreciated! Older Brits may remember the umbrella murder of 1978. :ohmy:

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Re: RESEARCH BASED NATURAL PRODUCTS..A SUCCESFUL STORY 9 years 10 months ago #23102

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Nothing negative in asking why taking collodial silver & posting a Mayo Clinic site, which I would assume sort of knows what they are talking about

Ann mentions a video about a man - I found it an posted it. Nothing wrong with that, I would assume anyway. hehehe

Collodial silver can cause what the man has in the article you posted - argyria (ahr-JIR-e-uh).

From the Mayo Clinic site you wouldn't read:
It's not clear how much colloidal silver may be harmful, but it can build up in your body's tissues over months or years. Most commonly, this results in argyria (ahr-JIR-e-uh), a blue-gray discoloration of your skin, eyes, internal organs, nails and gums. While argyria doesn't pose a serious health problem, it can be a cosmetic concern because it doesn't go away when you stop taking silver products.

My question still stands - why are you taking colloidal silver? In other words: have you read that it can help with ITP, has a doctor or homeopath or whomever, told you that it will help with ITP? [was just a normal, curious, innocent question - I am sorry you took offense]

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Re: RESEARCH BASED NATURAL PRODUCTS..A SUCCESFUL STORY 9 years 10 months ago #23154

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KittieG:
How are you platelets doing with the papaya leaf juice? I have been taking it for the past 4 months. My platelets for the past 4 months are around 7 to 10. A couple of times they were at 20, but mostly around 10.

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Re: RESEARCH BASED NATURAL PRODUCTS..A SUCCESFUL STORY 9 years 10 months ago #23172

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Lady elly:

I was not dedicated to really testing it, and I wasn't being strategic or consistent, so I can't give it a fair report yet. Numbers today were 11k - a new low for me, huzzah!

How are you managing the 7-10k? Just curious. Do you have any visible signs?

Todays read was two weeks after the dexamethasone brought me up to 91k. At THAT appt, my dr was willing to go two weeks before our next read, but thanks to all the methodical and detailed posts on this site, I noticed that lots of people have a swing up, and then a week later, back down from the dex. So I scheduled a read for a week later (between me and my hematologist, im glad one of us knows what's going on). Today when I had the 11k, he asked me "so, why did you come in so much sooner? I'm glad you did". But like is always the case for me, no visible bleed at all - no petechia, no purpura, no mouth sores, no nosebleed. In fact I have been feeling really good. The answer is I came in because of my friends on the PSDA site! :)

So I'm back on a 4 day 20 mg dex pulse to boost them back up (I tolerated the dex really well, and it's only 4 days, so eh - why not? And it's $3! You can't beat that), and I am thinking that after I finish, or maybe on the last day, I'm going to begin 3 papaya pills each day. This is the recommended dose. I got the liquid originally but it tastes horrible, so I was not very dedicated to it. The pills are easy, so I will try it out and be more dedicated to the process, and report back. I keep a med/food journal, so I will track it carefully.

This visit to the hema was much better - I made him review each treatment weve tried over the last year, and how much it boosed and for what duration, and if that changed each time. I think that I'm going to try Winrho again, mostly because the first go gave me 181k and stayed in a safe range for 2 months. I'm at a point now where 2 months would be awesome, and I tolerated Winrho really well, and is fast. Oh - and cheap, which shouldn't matter, but ya know what? It does. I can only get insurance to cover ivig if I'm admitted to the hospital. If I'm in a chemo clinic or something like that, they cover 75%, but it's thousands and thousands of dollars, so 25% of that was $2300 one time. A very annoying lesson to learn.

Does anyone know what is the name of the iridium test that tracks the path of destruction? Anyone know? I may be more interested in a splenectomy if I knew they were mostly being destroyed there. I've heard it's more standard in England - of course.

Let me know if you know!

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Re: RESEARCH BASED NATURAL PRODUCTS..A SUCCESFUL STORY 9 years 10 months ago #23179

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It's the indium platelet survival study. I doubt you'd get it in the US. Come to England for a holiday and have it done here.

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