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TOPIC: Petechiae, but no bruising in 3 year old?

Petechiae, but no bruising in 3 year old? 3 weeks 3 days ago #65207

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I will continue to get the flu shot. I have been ever since being diagnosed in 2004 with no issues. And now that my 88 year old mother lives with me, I won't take the chance that I might pass it on to her even if I don't get it. I have been spleenless since 2006 and have not gotten sick any more than before that.

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Petechiae, but no bruising in 3 year old? 3 weeks 3 days ago #65208

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I have been getting a flu shot yearly starting in 1992 and have had no issues. I've seen someone with flu complications and having to be hospitalized, it isn't pretty it is darn scary!

A child in Florida died of flu complications in October, a middle-aged women in Kentucky died of flu complications in October.

I don't believe that flu shots are not effective in children. For a while they took the mist out of the picture saying it wasn't effective but I believe they have brought it back - not something any of us would get anyway.

Good for you Cindy to think of others - hope you are doing well [and Mom too].
Melinda
"Instead of wasting your time worrying about symptoms, just get it checked out" -Nieca Goldberg, MD

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Petechiae, but no bruising in 3 year old? 3 weeks 2 days ago #65213

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I don't know why they brought the mist back. It wasn't effective then and probably still isn't. It sheds for up to 28 days (per the insert), so it seems that the mist could actually spread the flu. The efficacy rates of the shots are never that great either. I've never had one, never had the flu. The benefit vs risk isn't worth it to me.

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Petechiae, but no bruising in 3 year old? 2 weeks 3 days ago #65270

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Hi everyone! we have been traveling so I haven't checked in in a while...

On the flu shots, my only reservation is about effectiveness v. risk of triggering ITP. I know some years they get the mix right, and other years they can't stay ahead of the flu strains mutations. I'm trying to figure out by when that becomes relevant. We're leaning toward doing the flu shots this coming week.

In other news, I'm pregnant. I'm 40, so for "advanced maternal age," they now offer a CRAZY amount of prenatal testing, including sequencing the fetus' entire genome through a technique called micro array. It doesn't diagnose autosomal recessive disorders but it does look for nearly 200 genetic abnormalities. The downside is that sometimes it comes up with "values of uncertain significance," i.e. you're told something is off with the genes but scientists have no way of knowing if that will become a symptomatic problem or not, so you're left to marinate and stress yourself out in this ambiguity.

Anyway, during the consultation with the genetic counselor, I asked about ITP. She said because any genetic link is likely to be recessive autosomal, this technique wouldn't pick it up. I pushed a bit more, and basically, the answer was that no one is really keeping track of kids whose DNA has been sequenced for any reason (pre- or post-natally) and kids who develop ITP (plus a host of other diseases). Adding this to my list of research questions! It seems like all it would take is cross-referencing a bunch of databases... I wonder how much "low hanging fruit" in terms of research on "rare" diseases is out there, just waiting for someone to start seriously cross-referencing data.

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Petechiae, but no bruising in 3 year old? 2 weeks 3 days ago #65272

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Congratulations! 40 is nothing. Tons of my friends got their kids way into 40s without any issues. Sleepless night and diapers scare us away to have third one :-)

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Petechiae, but no bruising in 3 year old? 2 weeks 3 days ago #65274

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Congratulations Maria. Just checked back in my book (haemo makes us keep one with a complete record of results and incidents) . I haven't had my counts drop dramatically after a flu jab. I'd rather risk low counts than flu & being pregnant now puts you in to the 'recommended has a jab category'.
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Petechiae, but no bruising in 3 year old? 2 weeks 2 days ago #65275

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Congratulations, Maria! That's big news! Is this your second?

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Petechiae, but no bruising in 3 year old? 2 weeks 2 days ago #65279

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If you're interested in genetics, start researching 'epigenetics'. Lifestyle and the things we are exposed to play a huge part in the development of certain health conditions.

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Petechiae, but no bruising in 3 year old? 2 weeks 2 days ago #65284

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Thanks TH8899, MrsB and Sandi! Yes, this will be #2, if all goes well.
And thanks for the epigenetics reference! I've listened to a few TED talks (mostly related to nutrition and cancer prevention*) but haven't really delved into the topic. It sounds fascinating.

*https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3197720/

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Petechiae, but no bruising in 3 year old? 2 weeks 1 day ago #65297

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Good luck with #2 Maria.
On a DNA signature for ITP. Roomer has it that it has been investigated for adults, but nothing was found. I have to wonder though, if they should have been looking for 4 different signatures since there are 4 types of ITP. If they were looking for 1 signature, I can see how the search failed.
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Petechiae, but no bruising in 3 year old? 2 weeks 17 hours ago #65316

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Hal, interesting, do you know when that was done? I understand the microarray technique has only been around for 10 years.

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Petechiae, but no bruising in 3 year old? 2 weeks 15 hours ago #65318

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Don't know. We had a guest speaker hematologist at our last local PDSA meeting. As I recall her saying, she started her career in research looking for a DNA signature for ITP and had found nothing. Finding nothing, then moved on.
Ok, did a bit of searching on papers she has published. Looks like she may have done that back around 2009 at St Jude Children's Research Hospital. If you want her name, I can message it to you.

I mentioned 'adults' earlier. That was a presumption by me. I guess it could have been children.

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Petechiae, but no bruising in 3 year old? 1 week 21 hours ago #65353

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Congratulations, Maria!!! :laugh:
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