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And the measles outbreak thanks to not vaccinating... 11 months 1 week ago #65703

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And the measles outbreak thanks to not vaccinating... 11 months 1 week ago #65724

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Melinda - there are always small measles outbreaks. Always have been...every single year. They just never publicized it like they are now. Last August, the media was blasting stories of measles 'outbreaks' like crazy (like they are now). The CDC actually stated at that time that there were no outbreaks and the number of measles cases were comparable with prior years. Here are all of the CDC reported measles cases over the years. Nothing has changed.

www.cdc.gov/measles/cases-outbreaks.html

www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/downloads/appendices/E/reported-cases.pdf?fbclid=IwAR2s0hfFtn_UHIT5HZb5guRUoBX2LD_j06ZImCtUKNQ0D7FDDqWL2HxOnSA

The largest measles outbreak ever was in a highly vaccinated population:

"Background. The largest measles epidemic in North America in the last decade, occurred in 2011 in Quebec, Canada, where rates of 1- and 2-dose vaccine coverage among children 3 years of age were 95%–97% and 90%, respectively, with 3%–5% unvaccinated."

academic.oup.com/jid/article/207/6/990/898747?searchresult=1

Here's another one:

"A measles outbreak occurred in New York City. All cases had prior evidence of measles immunity. Symptoms were consistent with measles. Laboratory results indicated secondary immune responses. This report documents measles transmission from an individual with verified secondary vaccine failure."

academic.oup.com/cid/article/58/9/1205/2895266

And another one:

www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm6438a7.htm

I remember a time when having measles was not a big deal.

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And the measles outbreak thanks to not vaccinating... 11 months 1 week ago #65727

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On this page, the CDC lists all current outbreaks on the left side in blue. They don't even have the measles listed. They do list raw milk though for this month and listed Hep A in 2017.

www.cdc.gov/outbreaks/?fbclid=IwAR34VugXoShUQXE0Ioe0uwIqKbQKpc5v1iWz6RDwtVyVLzZFO6Tutqj7-GA

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And the measles outbreak thanks to not vaccinating... 11 months 1 week ago #65733

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It is not a small outbreak in Washington Sandi - but you can keep your head in the clouds if you want to, that is a safe place to be.

What does the outbreak site you listed have anything to do with Washington State and the measles outbreak? I saw measles in countries overseas and that one should watch out if they get a hedgehog...
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The sites that I listed are from the CDC. The first two show the number of cases yearly; there are always measles outbreaks and it's a normal occurrence. Even in the year that it was supposedly 'eradicated' (2000), there were 82 cases of measles. The articles that I posted show that measles outbreaks occur in highly vaccinated populations and in vaccinated people. Herd immunity failed on at least three occasions when outbreaks got out of control (hundreds of people) because the vaccines failed. They didn't quarantine because they counted on herd immunity in a population vaccinated at 97%; herd immunity did not work. You'd see that if you'd look at it.

The last link from the CDC has to do with every state in the US. It's a list of all outbreaks and it didn't even mention the measles because it's a non-issue. It IS a small outbreak, only 30+ people. It's only measles for goodness sake.

"By the early 1960s the epidemiology of measles was well understood. It was known that the disease occurred throughout the world, generally in regular periodic cycles. With the exception of some isolated population groups, almost all children contracted measles before they reached adolescence. No nonhuman sources of infection were known. By 1960, thanks to the use of antibiotics and improvements in living conditions, measles mortality was declining steadily in industrialized countries (although not in the developing world). For example, in the United Kingdom deaths from measles had fallen from 307 in 1949 to 98 in 1959. Parents largely came to see measles as an unpleasant, although more or less inevitable, part of childhood. Many primary care physicians shared this view."

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4007870/?fbclid=IwAR2AVqnvkGa0FXB6t9__GTkY6N2rVckK2XY-wh2ECleH5Wguw52m1gaIjrc

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And the measles outbreak thanks to not vaccinating... 11 months 1 week ago #65736

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It looks like your articles are from 2013 and 2014 - but one does have the measles cases for Jan 1- Jan 31, 2019 at 79 cases.

I am talking about now Sandi not 4 or 5 years ago - I am not talking about the UK or Canada or any other country, I am talking about the United States of America.
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And the measles outbreak thanks to not vaccinating... 11 months 1 week ago #65738

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My point was that there are always cases of measles in the US. The only difference is that the media is blowing it up right now. The first two CDC websites show measles cases from now all the way back to 1950. The last CDC website that shows any current outbreaks doesn't even mention measles. It mentions lettuce and milk.

The UK and Canada are pretty similar to the US as far as health standards, so why wouldn't it apply? There were a few bigger outbreaks, one in Canada and one in New York, and fully vaccinated people got measles. It used to be believed that immunity from vaccination lasted a lifetime, but they are discovering now that it does not. That is why herd immunity cannot be achieved. There are some people that get no response at all from a vaccine (Primary Vaccine Failure).

Measles was always known to be a benign childhood disease that all kids eventually got. It wasn't deadly. Instead of getting measles now for a week or so and getting over it, children are ending up with chronic illnesses from the vaccine. ITP is only one of them. Another problem that is just coming to the surface is that babies used to get passive immunity from the mother's placenta and breast milk which would protect them for the first 6 to 12 months when the mother had had natural measles. Babies now are not protected like that, and are susceptible until they can get the vaccine at 12 months. Adults are also susceptible because the vaccine wears off (Secondary Vaccine Failure).

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC321355/

Most parents who do not vaccinate are well aware that their child may get measles and they are not afraid of it. They have done very extensive research. A child can also get measles from the vaccine (It's in the insert and is well-documented). Vaccines can also shed. It's rare, but that is exactly what happened in New York which caused the outbreak.

The thing that seems scary to me is that while this small outbreak is happening in Washington, they are using this to pass legislation to take away vaccine exemptions. That's exactly what they did in California after the Disney outbreak, and it's happening in other states as well. If people are forced to vaccinate, it equates to medical tyranny. No one should ever be forced to put anything in their body. After all of my research, I don't want it in mine. The CDC has an adult vaccine schedule all ready. Everybody better line up or you won't be in compliance.

It is also scary to me that when I share these articles from the FDA, CDC and other medical journals on Facebook, I get a notice that it's been deleted and goes against Facebook Community Standards. Why can't a person share a very credible study or article? Why can only side to the issue be known? There is something very, very wrong when you get silenced for sharing credible information.

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