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flu related death/s 4 months 3 weeks ago #65502

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flu related death/s 4 months 3 weeks ago #65509

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Yes, I heard that. Apparently, she also had meningitis.

I've been keeping track of reported flu cases in my county. 30 so far. 6,435 total cases for the entire state of PA which has 67 counties.

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flu related death/s 4 months 3 weeks ago #65510

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www.flu65plus.com/stories/complications-flu-10-conditions-you%E2%80%99ll-want-avoid/meningitis
Flu complication: Meningitis
Why it occurs
Meningitis is an infection of the protective membranes that surround the brain and spinal cord.
Viral meningitis is the most common and least serious type and can be caused by several different viruses, including the flu virus.
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flu related death/s 4 months 2 weeks ago #65514

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I understand that, Melinda. The flu can lead to complications.

I don't assume that the vaccine prevents the flu though. I've heard of quite a few people who got the vaccine and got the flu anyway. One of the listed side effects in every single insert is encephalitis and other neurological disorders. Flip a coin.

Nervous system disorders:
Neuralgia, paresthesia, convulsions (including febrile seizures), encephalomyelitis, encephalopathy, neuritis or neuropathy, transverse myelitis, and GBS.

labeling.csl.com/PI/US/Afluria/EN/Afluria-Prescribing-Information.pdf

"Universal influenza immunization programs, available in virtually every province and territory, may need to be reconsidered in light of emerging evidence that repeated flu shots may blunt the vaccine’s effectiveness in subsequent seasons.

The BC network’s estimates of this year’s flu vaccine efficacy, published in Eurosurveillance, were −8% overall and 2% in young adults against medically attended, laboratory-confirmed influenza A (H3N2) infection — which Skowronski said she interprets as a null effect. This also represents the lowest measured protection against a seasonal virus in the program’s 10-year history, she added.

It recently became known that this year’s H3N2 virus was not a match for the H3N2 component of this year’s trivalent vaccine, but the authors of this new study also saw variability in vaccine effectiveness that was related to prior vaccination history. Vaccine effectiveness was 43% for those who hadn’t received the 2013/14 vaccine but −15% for participants who received both seasons’ vaccines."

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4387051/?fbclid=IwAR2AzFeeQV76o4e9lkWeU7gjlZqckvcMxV8fBZ0319Mmx3wpt4itxZO2aiU

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flu related death/s 4 months 2 weeks ago #65515

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My two cents and speaking strictly for me, I will continue to get the flu shot. I have been getting it with no issues since I don't remember when. I know it's been awhile. I had to get it when I was working in home care.
Maybe I have my head in the sand, but I'd rather take a chance with the shot rather than with the flu.
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flu related death/s 4 months 2 weeks ago #65516

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I concur Cindy

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flu related death/s 4 months 2 weeks ago #65517

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Amen Cindy!!
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Sandi wrote: ...
It recently became known that this year’s H3N2 virus was not a match for the H3N2 component of this year’s trivalent vaccine, but the authors of this new study also saw variability in vaccine effectiveness that was related to prior vaccination history. Vaccine effectiveness was 43% for those who hadn’t received the 2013/14 vaccine but −15% for participants who received both seasons’ vaccines." ...


That is a strong piece of evidence against current Flu vaccine methodology. I keep thinking about how this whole Flu topic relates to Parkinson's, as described here:
"Flu jabs and Parkinson’s disease"
scienceofparkinsons.com/2017/06/06/flu-jabs-and-parkinsons-disease/

What I'd like to know is if those that take regular Flu shots have a higher or lower incidence of Parkinson's Disease. Based on the above vaccine effectiveness statistic, I'm going to guess that it is higher. But how much higher?

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flu related death/s 4 months 1 week ago #65590

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Sad news in the Denver area:
"A child in Colorado has died from the flu, according to the Colorado Department of Public Health & Environment.
The child died from influenza during the week ending in Jan. 12, state health officials said on Tuesday."

Fox news has stated the child was only partially vaccinated, so must have been under the age of 9 years since under the age of 9 yrs and getting vaccine for the 1st time it is in 2 doses at least 4 weeks apart.
"...This child apparently did not get the second dose."
"...the child had the H1N1 strain, which is the predominant strain this year.
That is also the strain Selina Nguyen has. The 7-year-old went into a coma, and at last check was still battling symptoms at Children’s Hospital Colorado."
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flu related death/s 4 months 5 days ago #65612

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"An El Paso woman in her mid-20s is the second person to have died from the flu this season, despite having received the influenza vaccine."

www.ktsm.com/life-health/health-and-medical/woman-in-mid-20s-with-no-underlying-medical-conditions-dies-from-flu-had-received-vaccine/1708345107

We can probably go back and forth with articles all day. To be clear, I'm not telling anyone not to get the flu shot. You have to do what you think is best for you. I'm just trying to point out some facts. I'm not making this stuff up; I've been researching this for more than five years. I have provided you guys with very credible information. Isn't it best to always investigate everything that you put into your body? For some odd reason, vaccines seem to get a free pass when it comes to this. It never hurts to be educated and it's absurd to blindly trust when conflicting information is out there. Just this one article (below) alone should make everyone leery (already posted it before). The FDA itself admitting there is a problem with animal viruses and tumorogenic cells in vaccines; I just can't fathom why anyone wouldn't start questioning after knowing that. I have tons of studies bookmarked, including one that readily admits that a cancer-causing monkey virus (SV-40) was given to millions of children in the polio vaccine. Somehow I've managed to avoid the flu my entire life without ever having a flu shot. I don't necessarily believe that luck will hold out forever, but I also don't believe that the flu shot will save me based on the studies that I have.

"Virus-based vaccines are made in living cells (cell substrates). Some manufacturers are investigating the use of new cell lines to make vaccines. The continual growth of cell lines ensures that there is a consistent supply of the same cells that can yield high quantities of the vaccine.

In some cases the cell lines that are used might be tumorigenic, that is, they form tumors when injected into rodents. Some of these tumor-forming cell lines may contain cancer-causing viruses that are not actively reproducing. Such viruses are hard to detect using standard methods. These latent, or "quiet," viruses pose a potential threat, since they might become active under vaccine manufacturing conditions. Therefore, to ensure the safety of vaccines, our laboratory is investigating ways to activate latent viruses in cell lines and to detect the activated viruses, as well as other unknown viruses, using new technologies. We will then adapt our findings to detect viruses in the same types of cell substrates that are used to produce vaccines. We are also trying to identify specific biological processes that reflect virus activity.

These methods will enable FDA scientists to help manufacturers to determine whether their specific cell substrate is safe to use for vaccine production. The methods our laboratory are developing and testing will help to ensure the production of safe and effective vaccines in two ways: 1) FDA will be able to develop testing guidelines for manufacturers who use new cell substrates for producing vaccines; and 2) FDA will publish the new methods it develops in peer-reviewed scientific journals, thus making them readily accessible to all manufacturers.

We are also evaluating the risk of retrovirus infections in humans. (Retroviruses are RNA viruses that use an enzyme called reverse transcriptase (RT) to replicate; RNA is the de-coded form of DNA). Simian foamy virus (SFV) can be transmitted from nonhuman primates (e.g., monkeys) to humans. Although there is no evidence that SFV causes disease, the virus can remain in a lifelong quiet state in the DNA after infection. Moreover, two individuals in Africa were recently found to be infected with both HIV-1 and SFV. Therefore, it is important to determine if SFV poses a threat to human health and to understand how the virus spreads in order to create strategies for controlling human infections. Such work will also help FDA to develop a new policy regarding blood donation by individuals working with nonhuman primates and implementing formal safety guidelines for people working with SFV-infected animals. We are also investigating the consequences of dual SFV and HIV-1 infection in the monkey model."

www.fda.gov/biologicsbloodvaccines/scienceresearch/biologicsresearchareas/ucm127327.htm?fbclid=IwAR2yeOuCgQ5XKI0RT7Yk6jHauSJmXvdr5yj-neM3Iqyjb7b6hBVSD4Y0Y0w

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flu related death/s 4 months 5 days ago #65613

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It also concerns me that there is a lot of apparent conflict in instructions between the CDC, the drug manufacturers and the FDA.

In regards to the flu vaccine and egg allergies:

The drug manufacturer states in this insert: 4 CONTRAINDICATIONS
AFLURIA is contraindicated in individuals with known severe allergic reactions (e.g., anaphylaxis) to any component of the vaccine including egg protein, or to a previous dose of any influenza vaccine (see Description [11])

labeling.csl.com/PI/US/Afluria/EN/Afluria-Prescribing-Information.pdf

But the CDC says this:

"Those who have a history of severe allergic reaction to egg (i.e., any symptom other than hives) should be vaccinated in an inpatient or outpatient medical setting (including but not necessarily limited to hospitals, clinics, health departments, and physician offices), under the supervision of a health care provider who is able to recognize and manage severe allergic conditions."

What kind of flu vaccine should I get if I have more serious reactions to eating eggs or egg-containing foods like cardiovascular changes or a reaction requiring epinephrine?

If you are someone who has more serious reactions to eating eggs or egg-containing foods, like angioedema, respiratory distress, lightheadedness, or recurrent emesis; or who required epinephrine or another emergency medical intervention, you can get any licensed flu vaccine (i.e., any form of IIV, LAIV, or RIV) that is otherwise appropriate for your age and health status, but the vaccine should be given by a health care provider who can recognize and respond to a severe allergic response.

www.cdc.gov/flu/protect/vaccine/egg-allergies.htm

Basically, the CDC is recommending that a person get the flu shot regardless of possible reactions. Just get it somewhere where you can be saved. The drug manufacturer says differently, but who reads the inserts?

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flu related death/s 4 months 5 days ago #65614

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Hal:

This is just one study that I have regarding aluminum adjuvants and the brain:

"Al salts (hydroxide and phosphate) are the most commonly used vaccine adjuvants and, until recently, the only adjuvants licensed for use in the USA. In the absence of Al, according to their manufacturers, antigenic components of most vaccines (with the exception of live attenuated vaccines) fail to elicit the desired level of immune response. Although Al is neurotoxic, it is claimed by proponents that the concentrations at which Al is used in the vaccines do not represent a health hazard. For that reason, vaccine trials often treat an Al adjuvant-containing injection as a harmless “placebo” (a comparison benchmark or control treatment) or they use another Al-containing vaccine to treat a “control group,” despite evidence that Al in vaccine-relevant exposures is universally toxic to humans and animals. Its use in a supposed “placebo” or in any “control” treatment in vaccine trials is indefensible. It is precisely analogous to comparing fire A against fire B, to make the argument that since A is no hotter than B, A is therefore not a fire.

During the last decade, studies on animal models and humans have shown that Al adjuvants by themselves cause autoimmune and inflammatory conditions. The animal models show that subcutaneous injections of Al hydroxide induced apoptotic neuronal death and decreased motor function in mice and sheep. In newborn mice they were associated with weight increases, behavioral changes, and increased anxiety. All these findings plausibly implicate Al adjuvants in pediatric vaccines as causal factors contributing to increased rates of autism spectrum disorders in countries where multiple doses are almost universally administered. Also, as shown by Goldman and Miller in studies published in 2011 and 2012, strong correlations between infant mortality rates and the number of doses of vaccines administered also suggest deleterious impact of multiple exposures to their components.
The latest research by Luján et al. described a severe neurodegenerative syndrome in commercial sheep linked to the repetitive inoculation of Al-containing vaccines. In particular, the “sheep adjuvant syndrome” mimics in many aspects human neurological diseases linked to Al adjuvants. Moreover, the outcomes in sheep were first identified following a mass-vaccination campaign against blue tongue and have now been successfully reproduced under experimental conditions following administration of Al-containing vaccines. Notably, the adverse chronic phase of this syndrome affects 50–70% of the treated flocks and up to 100% of the animals within a given flock. The disorder is made worse by cold weather conditions, suggesting synergy with other stress producing factors. The disorder is characterized by severe neurobehavioral outcomes—restlessness, compulsive wool biting, generalized weakness, muscle tremors, loss of response to stimuli, ataxia, tetraplegia, stupor, inflammatory lesions in the brain and the presence of Al in the CNS tissues, coma, and death. These findings confirm and extend those of Khan et al. who demonstrated the ability of Al adjuvants to cross the BBB, and they show that Al in the brain can trigger severe long-term neurological damage. The findings by Luján et al. and Khan et al. also show how and why reported adverse reactions following vaccinations are most commonly neurological and neuropsychiatric."
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4202242/

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flu related death/s 4 months 2 days ago #65625

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Sandi wrote: Hal:

This is just one study that I have regarding aluminum adjuvants and the brain:

"... During the last decade, studies on animal models and humans have shown that Al adjuvants by themselves cause autoimmune and inflammatory conditions...."

As we saw with the Shingrix vaccine, aren't aluminum based adjuvants a bit 'old school' now?

The author says that adjuvants 'by themselves' cause autoimmune issues. I'm skeptical of that absolutism. In my opinion, Epstein Barr is more likely the primary culprit. These cell hijacking viruses have the ability to turn off and turn on cell activity of the cell they are hiding in - at it's will. Hence immune system elimination/apoptosis of cells that are bad (attack self) cannot be properly eliminated from population. The virus block it, for it's own survival.

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flu related death/s 3 months 3 weeks ago #65653

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But that's the thing, Hal. The vaccines have viruses in them (animal viruses) that are hijacking cells. It's in that FDA article that I posted and it's what I keep trying to tell everyone. For all we know, EBV could have originated from vaccines. I'd be willing to bet that nearly everyone has the virus, although it might be dormant in some. We already know that the SV-40 (simian monkey) virus was given to millions of children in the first polio vaccine (posted this one too). They admit that there are still animal viruses in vaccines.

"Current test methods used to detect infectious retroviruses in vaccine lots include an infectivity culture method followed by either a complement fixation test for avian leukosis (COFAL) or an enzyme-linked immunosorbent assay (ELISA) readout specific for ALV (2) or infectivity with a reverse transcriptase PCR endpoint for the detection of amplified RT activity (3). Unfortunately, these tests often exhibit high invalid test rates, may use primary chicken embryo fibroblast (CEF) cells that can result in inconsistent results, rely on the use of detection reagents (i.e., antibodies) that are difficult to secure in sufficient quantities for routine lot release testing, and have readout systems that are time-consuming and difficult to standardize. For example, it is difficult to consistently determine the appropriate cutoff point between positive and negative results for the ELISA method, and the consistency of the COFAL readout is directly related to the quality of the complement and erythrocytes used. Therefore, the vaccine industry is very interested in developing alternative methods that are more reliable and standardized than those mentioned above for the detection of avian retroviruses in vaccines."

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3647912/

"Mycoplasma is an umbrella term for representatives of the Mollicutes class, the smallest bacteria lacking a cell wall and capable of self-reproduction. The small genome size limits the biosynthetic abilities of these microorganisms and defines their parasitic way of life. The great attention to mycoplasma is nowadays dictated, on the one hand, by the study of the molecular patterns of minimal cellular function sand, and on the other hand, by practical necessity. Mycoplasmas parasitize humans, animals, and plants, where some of them are agents of socially significant diseases, and the main contaminants of cell cultures and vaccines. Control over mycoplasma infection is a serious problem, the solution to which can probably be found in the molecular mechanisms of adaptation that allow mycoplasma to survive under various conditions and to overcome the protection barrier of higher eukaryotes and their persistence.

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4207559/?fbclid=IwAR2ZrOv29a1gD-yEjoSRaPB9ybWFL4WhhHN70QLqEX_U2R7-G4FS6xWTe0A

"Retroviruses are classified as exogenous or endogenous according to their mode of transmission. Generally, endogenous retroviruses (ERVs) are not pathogenic in their original hosts; however, some ERVs induce diseases. In humans, a novel gammaretrovirus was discovered in patients with prostate cancer or chronic fatigue syndrome. This virus was closely related to xenotropic murine leukemia virus (X-MLV) and designated as xenotropic murine leukemia virus-related virus (XMRV). The origin and transmission route of XMRV are still unknown at present; however, XMRV may be derived from ERVs of rodents because X-MLVs are ERVs of inbred and wild mice. Many live attenuated vaccines for animals are manufactured by using cell lines from animals, which are known to produce infectious ERVs; however, the risks of infection by ERVs from xenospecies through vaccination have been ignored. This brief review gives an overview of ERVs in cats, the potential risks of ERV infection by vaccination, the biological characteristics of RD-114 virus (a feline ERV), which possibly contaminates vaccines for companion animals, and the methods for detection of infectious RD-114 virus."

www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1045105610000801?via%3Dihub&fbclid=IwAR0VDPI7ncUKcAlu6YeT7WxdS1Pu1tOEVKRCspiX9ViZaZjbUWCYCgoI0rk

I don't think aluminum is old school yet. It's still in most vaccines and is not as safe as they claim (I have studies to prove that). It's being studied more often now and the results are not good.

25 flu deaths in PA so far, most over the age of 65. Going by these numbers (and Melinda's), there is no possible way that they can claim 80,000 total flu deaths by the end of flu season. More like 1,500 - 2,000. With a population of 12,800,000 in PA, the odds of dying from the flu are .0001953%.

www.health.pa.gov/topics/disease/Flu/Pages/2018-19-Flu.aspx

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