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TOPIC: Paleo

Paleo 5 years 11 months ago #43977

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Mike - I'm happy to hear that someone else is benefiting from this diet. I believe in it also and have noticed improvements too. There are so many articles debunking the theory but I'll tell you what, the people who write them most likely do not have health issues so do not have first hand experience. They just look at the theories behind it and make assumptions.

Since I wrote last, my husband has completely changed his mind about food habits. He has stopped all caffeine and sugar, and limits carbs. He has lost 45 pounds in the last five months. We have both been counting calories and watching everything we eat. I've lost 7 pounds in the last two months. Although I haven't gone completely Paleo, I can't even remember the last time I ate bread or anything with gluten. I don't miss it either.

There is something to this diet and I wish more people would try it.

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Paleo 5 years 11 months ago #43979

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Wow that's awesome Sandi, congratulations to you and your husband! My wife has had great results as well and I think it definitely helps to do it with your spouse.

That's a good point about the research and health issues that I hadn't considered, but it makes a lot of sense.

I too wish more people would try it. I've used the opportunity of people commenting on my weight loss and energy to tell them about the life style. So far no takers, but hoping as I continue down the path they'll give it a shot.

I'm still amazed such a small change has had such a big impact in my quality of life.

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Paleo 5 years 11 months ago #43982

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I read some interesting books about the paleo diet earlier this year and thought I'd mention them. "The Paleo Manifesto" by John Durant is a nice intro to the basic ideas of the paleo diet. "Paleofantasy: What Evolution Really Tells Us About Sex, Diet, and How We Live", by Marlene Zuk is a detailed explanation of what the limits of the paleo approach to diet and life may be. I read some other stuff years back by the likes of Loren Cordain and Robb Wolf but wasn't particularly impressed.

My own modified sort-of paleo approach to eating seems to work for me, but I have to avoid a lot of foods because I can't digest them well (e.g.: grains, beans, dairy) or dislike the texture (e.g.: chicken, beef), and I work with my hemo and other docs on my digestive system's limited ability to actually digest and absorb nutrients. I like Michael Pollen's phrase "eat food, mostly plants, not too much" but at least in my case, details matter. And I'm still trying to sort that out.

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Paleo 5 years 11 months ago #43985

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That's funny. I read The Paleo Solution by Robb Wolf and liked it a lot. I thought he gave great explanations about how the body digests certain foods and how the food is converted to energy, sugar, etc. The explanations were simple enough to understand and it kept my interest. I have some Paleo cookbooks that I should dig out and start using. We are getting into it more and more and the funny thing is; I was never much of a meat eater. I do like chicken but we're getting chickened out. Need some more ideas.

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Paleo 5 years 11 months ago #43986

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I didn't dislike Wolf's book but was clearly inaccurate regarding diet and genetically determined disorders such as the porphyrias and Huntington's, both of which he stated the paleo diet would prevent. The basic idea of an "evolutionarily-appropriate" diet appeals to me. I try to eat that way, and I feed my cats that way.

Unfortunately I have to take a lot of supplements to compensate for my body's inability to absorb B12, folate, and iron, and vitamin D (because I can't tolerate sunlight enough to make it naturally). So for as much as I'd like to get all my nutrition from my food, I can't seem to manage it. And I've got to figure out how to cook fish since it's one of the few protein-rich foods I actually enjoy.

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Paleo 5 years 11 months ago #43989

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Well it seems we are in the same boat. I always have low levels of everything. I have 9 big bottles of supplements; Magnesium, B-12, B-Complex, Potassium, Azo Cranberry, D-3, Probiotics, Ferrous Sulfate, and Coconut Oil. My D level is always low, since I have Lupus I can't be in the sun for long either. I've been on the script high dose D so many times. It drops when I go off of it even with OTC supplements.

I like fish too but unfortunately, I only like ocean fish which carry a risk of mercury. I have to limit those, but tuna steaks and sword fish are my favorites. I also like orange roughy if it's done right.

I found a new snack the other day that is so good and very low in calories. Strawberries dipped in Light & Fit Strawberry yogurt!

You're right, diet will most likely not prevent hereditary disorders like Parkinson's, but it could prevent or prolong an autoimmune diagnosis.

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Paleo 5 years 11 months ago #43990

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I'll never know for certain, but I suspect that my diet, including a paleo-like angle, is helping keep the ITP and other troubles I have under control. That's why I keep reading potentially useful books, articles, and threads like this one.

I agree about ocean fish and mercury. I keep tabs on that issue using using SeafoodWatch.org from the Monterey Bay Aquarium (good resource if you're not familiar with it), and I try to emphasize fish like tilapia and seafood over tuna et al.

I also agree about supplements. I take more of them than I'd like but don't seem to have any good alternatives. Too much sun and I wither (or turn to dust, if you prefer vampiric analogies), so lots of OTC vitamin D.

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Paleo 5 years 11 months ago #44017

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Aoi - I'll agree with your statement that your diet is helping except to say I am certain it's helping me and almost as certain it's helping you as well.

I know it's helping my energy and my ability to think more clearly. Plus I'll bet that if you look at mortality tables we'd see even with our diseases our number one risk is still....being overweight out of shape and all the issues and diseases that brings with it.

Also, if you haven't already, you may want to check out the link I provided earlier. The eating plan sounds like it lines up really well with the foods you are limiting yourself to, also there are some great resources there that may answer some of your questions.

Sandi - My take away regarding the explanation of the diet is the same as yours. Our bodies are designed to hoard carbs (converted to sugar stored as fat). My take on the 'paleo' tag being used is it's just referring to the fact that historically carbs were rare and our bodies were designed/evolved for this.

Thanks for the discussion and support from both of you. It's funny how few people have been supportive and instead told me it's 'weird' not 'natural' what about fiber, etc. I do feel this life style is gaining momentum as more scientific research is done (there is a huge NIS study going on now) and as more people experience the positive benefits. But until then, my new easier approach is just to tell people I have food allergies, that ends the discussion much sooner :)

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Paleo 5 years 11 months ago #44022

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My husband was the same way. Last year, he gave me a very hard time about food and didn't want any part of a lifestyle diet. He was about 60 pounds overweight and didn't care. He didn't want to be deprived of the foods that he liked and eating was a big deal for him. He loves to cook, but the food choices were not always healthy. A few months ago, he had a revelation and started reading about dieting. He changed his total outlook, and now is telling me the same things that I said last year. I'm just glad that he finally gets it, and he's lost a lot of weight already. It's so much easier when you have someone to do it with.

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